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Warlizard
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much give s/ drive belt have w/ bike just sitting? I know to properly check you need 2 people and shock tension needs to be released. W/ out going thru all that is there a way to "ball park" it? My belt only has about a 1/2 inch of give while standing. Sure seems tight. I prefer to run mine as loose as possible. How much give do you guys have w/ bike standing? Thanx.
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5liter
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 1 inch of travel with the bike on the side stand. I've got 36,000 mile on the original belt.
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

run it loose, it will be nicer to your isolators!
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Warlizard
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am w/out a service manual. How does one go about adjusting tension? My tool supply is pretty basic but I was hoping to be able to do this myself. Thanx Again.
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you need to loosen the axle nut and adjust the adj bolts??? at the rear to move the axle forward, just do it evenly!

i don't have an aluminum swingarm bike manual or i'd be more specific.
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Jayvee
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like it so loose that from the top, it can easily push down to touch the swingarm.
"floppy loose"

If you have calipers use them to check the even-ness between left and right side. Measure from the front of the adjustor to the front of the notch in the swingarm that the adjustor slides in.
I just now forget how close the measurement has to be, it's like within 1mm of each other, or something like that, now I forget the tolerance. Doh! I had just looked it up.
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Jos51700
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'Friggin loose, compared to any other bike.

1.5 inches if memory serves.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can easily push mine into the swingarm too.
As mentioned, use calipers to square it up.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are different names for it...

But, some call mine STUPID loose, or scary loose.


Personally, I have NOT ever jumped a cog with the belt too loose.... there is slack.. but... it wont jump....

Being able to push the belt to the swing arm... is pretty much spot on...

Chase
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Warlizard
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to be clear, when you guys say "push to the swingarm". From what point? Center of belt? The top and push down or the opposite? I am completely green on this.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least for me, I push it down where the belt and swingarm are close toward the front of the swingarm. The beltguard prevents doing it further back.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same here.. around the pivot area...

IN fact, on mine, I have a slight polished area, where the belt rubs occassionally...

Chase
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a slight polished area, where the belt rubs occassionally...

same here....
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5liter
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had mine too loose and it jumped the cogs on acceleration from a red light. That was spooky so I tightened it up to where it is now.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will hear a chirping on acceleration from dead stop any looser and the belt will jump. I have adjusted so the chirping just goes away. I can push the belt from the bottom to touch the swing arm. It also helps the adjustment of the belt if per load and spring rates are close for your weight.
Joe

(Message edited by bad_karma on April 26, 2008)
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Buellgekk
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With an X1 swingarm you should be able to push the belt against the underside of the swingarm with a bit of pressure.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put the bike up on jack stands, remove the rear shock bolt.

Use some wood wedges under the tire to raise the rear wheel until the drive sprocket, swing arm pivot and rear sprocket are in a straight line.
Adjust the belt [get a manual] until the belt is taunt.
Put it all back together.

Disclaimer- this is how I do it

Lafayette, are you out there?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the shock off, I was surprised how much slack the belt needed so it wouldn't get tight when the axle, swingarm pivot, and output shaft were lined up. The belt tension changes pretty quickly with just small amounts of swingarm rotation.

If you ever have the rear shock off, check it that way. It'll surprise you.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought the new style belt from AL, some sort of XB.
I ran the original belt even more loose than this one. I think my "taunt" concept has changed. I don't think I used the adjusters to tighten the belt last time, just this time.

"Scary loose" seems to be fine???
Even REALLY SCARY LOOSE works...
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Igneroid
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried the "REALLY SCARY LOOSE" thing and was jumping cogs every hard shift. Im back to "Sorta Scary Loose" and all seems fine. Im thinkin the only advantage to REALLY SCARY LOOSE is savin the belt when a rock gets tangled up in there.
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