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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My PSL "S" version.
20190703_083128 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
20190703_083047 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
20190703_083216 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2019 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got the P-938 to the range today. Only had 30 minutes but managed 350 rounds in the target.


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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2019 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Impressive.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A friend asked me about why I continued practicing yoga for years after my physical therapy (racing crash, another story for another time). Told her that yoga really helps me in pistol and especially rifle shooting. This was NOT the answer she expected.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The impressive part was loading 350 rounds into Sig Sauer magazines in under 30 minutes.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, that's an impressive target. Then I was sitting thinking about rounds per minute there....wow.

I need practice.

What was your distance?
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe 20 feet. Nothing impressive. I have to put enough rounds through the pistol before I trust it enough to carry. 250 rounds were steel case, 50 were aluminum case, and 50 were brass case. All 115 grain FMJ. Next testing will be hollow points and ARX.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Far enough to be a reasonable engagement distance, should the need arise...

I don't know if I need to do trigger work on my XDs or just more practice. I'm about 30' with my home target (love having 4 acres and a nice earthen backstop!), which is an 8" "self-healing" rubber gong-looking thing. I get every round on target, but my groupings are off. Rather...non-existent for the most part. When I'm in a hurry. Sometimes I'll weak-hand; sometimes I'll flinch; I just need to get more consistent. *I* think, anyway. 1 shot per second, I'm golden...when I speed it up to a 2 or 3 rounds per second (which had to be your pace at 350/30 min) is when I get loose. Still on target...just loose.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While it would take revision to the National Firearms Act, I'd love one of these for plinking.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRb2iFkwDC4

As it is, I'm pleased our Marines have this in service, today. A tremendous force multiplier, and I can see application in any environment, but recent Urban warfare with concrete block construction ( in the Middle East ) has shown us how easy it is to fort up in a house and ambush passing vehicles.

Having the the means to rapidly shoot high explosive & test gas grenades, accurately, through windows and doors at hundreds of yards, is a life saver. The ability to pattern load a cylinder, ( without the chance of cylinder rotation while carrying, ruining the whole concept of a pattern load ) and do so fairly rapidly in pairs, offers the same tactical advantage as in a single shot arm. Assuming you've sorted your ammo on your vest, you could easily load, ( for example ) 2 High Explosive Armor Piercing, 2 tear gas, & 2 white phosphorus. That would be when you want to clear barricaded openings, encourage the folk that aren't already running from the bangs & splinters, to do so, then convince the rest to, and provide smoke cover.

Oh, yeah. Here it is shooting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kSc3cvmCjMY

Need a bigger press to reload those. Those are arrow speed projectiles btw.

I know I can't have one, but gee willikers, that would be fun!
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of Arrows...



I have that book & agree on the comments. It's still a hoot to read, especially the section on siege engines. One problem with artist's impression of machines of the pre-photography eras, is the artist may never have seen one, inventors aren't necessarily good draftsmen, and often you get 17-18th century artists copying 14th century illustrations with different norms on perception and perspective.

Trying to make a functional thing tosser from a medieval drawing often requires real engineering skill. I've seen where someone reasoned a frame to a ballista couldn't really use such thick timbers and the iron reinforcements with all those rivets, must be decorative. Um. No. I've seen them explode while being wound, drawing the string, ( but I keep missing the few that blow while firing, but I've seen video ) when the stresses exceed the construction. Hint, 2x4 timbers really limit the power. OTOH, that size is good backyard fun with archery class safe backstops. Full size Ballista can throw a bolt through a house.


As to crossbows, I love a goat's foot lever, and think I'll add one to mine. I've used the different belt types and they work fairly well but I don't recommend them if you have back or knee & range of motion issues. Windlasses are a pain. But reasonably cheap and work well over a large range of power. Cranequins... Luxury! A rich guy tool. If I get a higher power bow, I'd LUV one. The gearing, rack and pinion, was state of The art and expensive then. Still is.

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Thumper74
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a PSL... but I picked up a Shockwave for more up close shooting!

It's hard as hell to aim and you should definitely not hold it up like a shoulder fired weapon without some Kleenex handy to clean up your bloody nose.

The grip needs grip tape or stippling. The strap on the pump is there for a reason.

"It looked so easy!" - My cousin after trying to shoot it singled handedly and it flipping.



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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of those fun days over seas Uncle Sam let me shoot 700 rounds of 40mm.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe, I had an XDs in .45. I never did get it to shoot near what I thought it should be able to do. I got rid of it to invest in my AR.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/08/spec ial-session-virginia-gov-northam-seeks-suppressor- ban-gun-confiscation-law/
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2019 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I connected immediately with the XDs. I'd fired Glock (ugh), M&P (nice, but inconsistent for me), S&W (meh, didn't do it for me), and a full-frame Sig, before my quals.

I put five rounds through my XDs before qualifying with it - it just felt "right", right off the bat. Qualification targets were (out of a 250 best) 250/248/248/250. On target...but not "grouped".

Effective...but not "pretty".

I like the feel - I have large hands, and for a subcompact it "feels" full-size and doesn't rotate on me or pivot on me. I like the concealability and light weight. But...as I practice and get more time with it, I notice more things that I can "do to it" like upgrading the trigger mech and swapping springs.

I've also been considering adding a P365 - I like its overall size, I like its capacity. It felt to me a little small in the grip, but I haven't fired one yet - it's on the list.

I admit, I limit myself as far as options - I like no thumb safety. I like striker-fired. And I like less than 1.5" thick. Preferably less than 1.2".

I also like that mine is paid for - and at least until I get a better-paying job I probably shouldn't buy anything new. And...practice is cheap : ) Only $.19/rd from Georgia Arms!
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Indiana State Police use the P365 for their back-up firearm.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 03:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I got rid of it to invest in my AR.



I sold a Mini-14 several years ago to do the same. It went towards furniture and an optic.

I kinda like the Tac-13 with brace...though not enough to get one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDNUJr8OJis
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 03:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I also like that mine is paid for - and at least until I get a better-paying job I probably shouldn't buy anything new. And...practice is cheap : ) Only $.19/rd from Georgia Arms!



I want to like the P365, but it is a bit small in the grip for me. Add a half inch or so to the backstrap and it would be good.

Being paid for is nice. I'd really like a 5.56 suppressor right now, though certainly can't afford it since moving and being at an entry level position again
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's the same impression I got from the P365. Granted, it was holding...not firing...but I was honestly surprised how small the grip felt considering its capacity. Backstrap #2 on my XDs is just about perfect for me; be nice to add capacity without the x-tension mag (larger footprint).
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have never held the p365.
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rat and Rick, the P365 is coming out with a larger grip! It's one of the best shooting compacts/subcompacts that I have had my hands on.

I've been meaning to get the normal sized one for a while, but being a CCW gun with limited capacity, it's not on the Left's agenda. I've been focusing on the stuff they would target first, like non-sporting shotguns, AR and AK platforms, etc.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that the XL? Looks like an overall-larger package...i dunno...

Worth a look anyway.

With money I dont have
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm on record as not a fan of pistol grip shotguns. Mostly because I'm terrible with them. Nearly everyone is. They have a purpose, but it's limited..Mostly as a middle finger to the NFA .. No surprise at all a "brace" improves them to such a degree.



OTOH, giving a legally accepted middle finger to the NFA is nice, and they finally make a gas operated semi type "Pistol Grip Only" shotgun which reduces recoil, a Good Thing. My second favorite shotgun is my Winchester Super X 2 ( same gun as the FN & Browning except the latter has a magazine cutoff switch, all now superceded by the X3 ) which noticeably reduces/spreads out in time, recoil.

Funny enough, my in laws has the Browning goose version he hunts Turkey with, and I have the NWTF (national wild turkey federation ) Winchester, which I hunt.... waterfowl with. Funnier yet, when we shoot clays, when we swap, we both get better scores! Then swap back and again get better scores!?!? Neither wants to trade. The NWTF version has a shorter barrel & rifle sights, and makes nice 50 yard cloverleaf holes with both Remington Buckhammer, and "rifled" slugs. It's a great deer gun.

I find recoil operated guns to be hard kicking. My other in law had a lovely long barreled Benelli in 20 ga. that kicked like a 12 ga. pump.

Ironically, the shotgun in the video Rick posted above intrigues me. I want one.

************

Here's an interesting test on the Bond Bullpup. This pulls the rounds backwards out of the magazine, allowing a longer barrel for a given overall length. Very Clever. However, you are limited to ammo with a strong crimp, or inertia may pull the bullet, dumping the powder into the pistol. Yep, they invented a New Malfunction!

Sig P365 tested!

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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far, My impressions of Sigs being the P227 in .45acp and the P938 in 9mm, have been that I like shooting them.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried my G19 with a Silencerco threaded barrel. The bad news is it shot left with it. The good news is that it was right on with the suppressor on it.

I also took the S&W 66-8 back out and had some fun with it. It was also shooting left and required some adjustment. That handgun is odd in that it doesn't feel all that different with Specials or Magnums and I can shoot it just the same with either one. Using PMC Bronze for both, the Specials actually had more flash, and the Magnums, naturally, more blast and concussion.

The son's Star BM also shoots left (it's not me, I promise!)...so it's been a weird run of left shooting guns recently.

I'll be dragging the PSL out to the indoor range here, soon, to have some fun with it. Should be loud.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some "Combat Magnum" shooting.
20190710_081858 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess the next thing will be a Form 1 5.56 suppressor. If I can get it done at ~$200 (plus tax stamp) it'll be worth it.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took a new picture of my long term home D shotgun and appliance disposal tool...because Photobucket sucks.
20190711_073349 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does "Form 1" refer to some legal term or is it the shape of the object in question?

I'm thinking a rifle can would be an order of magnitude larger than a pistol?
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