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Archive through February 03, 2012Harleyelf30 02-03-12  03:59 pm
         

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Whatever
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What really is intriguing about Scientology is that at its most basic levels, it must have some positive effect on people, otherwise, how else would people keep shelling out exorbitant amounts of money?

Saro, your friend probably did have his phone tapped by Scientologists, it is very widely practiced on anyone who leaves that is not in the lowest ranks.

One of the tenets drilled into practicing Scientologists is to report their fellow "church" members for having bad thoughts about CoS. Then, when you are reported, they sit you in an interrogation room, often with no sleep or food and harass you until you admit to your "crimes".

Then off you go to the gulag for an undefined time for forced manual labor on a diet of rice and beans.

I really wonder if we will ever find out how many people have died and committed suicide because of their crap. The CoS makes everyone sign a liability waver before their first "auditing" session.

One woman was killed when she had a psychotic break and they put her in isolation, gave her no medical attention, and then let her slowly starve/ dehydrate to death.

Because she had been in a car accident before this happened and was in the ER and it was documented that she asked for help and a psych evaluation before the CoS came and took her away against medical advice, there were criminal charges filed.

It is one of the sadder parts of the book.

Google "Lisa McPherson".

Her family apparently settled their civil suit to the tune of 30 Million USD.

The CoS also likes to get underaged children, who are usually 2nd generation Scientologists to sign Billion Year Contracts with the "Sea Org".

Because of waivers, etc. they essentially steal these kids, sometimes as young as 8 and conscript them in the CoS "navy" or other camps. A lot of these kids really have no choice in this because their parents condone it.

It is absolutely sickening.

Blake, I would more likely open a commune than a church of any kind. Somewhere I could dig in the dirt all day and dress how I like.
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Whatever
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like they have a memorial page for Lisa here:

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Down on the Cataleptic Farm

A song/poem, haiku, gesundheit,


Down on the cataleptic farm
Where we farmed that old asparagus
We had a gaywaah community
Down on the cataleptic farm.
(c) 1968, The Fuggs


Now, who drank MY soymilk, fellow free spirits?
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Char- I had a friend once who's mom lived in a "commune" out in the Ozarks- visited there once for about 3 days, had a very interesting time.

Back then they produced consumer goods for places like Pier 1- hammocks, nut butters, peanut brittle, and the absolutely best and coolest sandals made out of fused polypropylene rope- this generated enough income to keep things going for everyone there, then they raised much of their own food.

Check them out, FWIW- "East Wind Community". One day I'm gonna have to do a MC ride back out there, the roads were fabulous!
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Starship troopers (the movie) was a funny and light parody of the book.
Would that that was so... the Director Paul Verhoeven really didn't like the source material and was deliberately heavy handed in his treatment of the "Fascist" world in the novel.

I may just be weird, but Verhoeven's most heavy handed stuff is what I laugh at most. Especially the bit "a murderer was captured this morning, tried this afternoon, and will be executed tonight, 7 oclock, all channels, all net." ( do you want to know more? )

Or the extreme truth...
Dizzy: My mother always told me that violence doesn't solve anything.
Jean Rasczak: Really? I wonder what the city founders of Hiroshima would have to say about that.
[to Carmen]
Jean Rasczak: You.
Carmen: They wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.
Jean Rasczak: Correct. Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst.


Many people called Heinlein a fascist because of Starship Troopers, ( idiots, like Milton was a Satanist ) but it's really a coming of age novel in the best tradition of the british sea novels, and the political setup is a reaction to the treatment of vets after almost every war in history. Including today's news of Veteran abuse by this admin. See also Kipling's "Tommy".
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Squids you didnt remember lines from Dune They were from different parts of the book.
Dig a little deeper and you will understand stand the analogy of the Spice and Oil Paul was the 12th imam that brought the Jihad.
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Whatever
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e 12-trapped-in-the-closet

This is actually pretty funny.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/iran-warns-world-of-com ing-great-event/
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2012 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://voiceoftheremnant.org/

I had coffee with this fellow this morning, for three hours.
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“Most people want to serve God
-- but only in an advisory capacity.”
~Unknown
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting Mox where did you meet him ?
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Max,

Your friend's site strikes a chord. Interesting.
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He lives across the street. We do coffee once in awhile.

Ex-Federal policeman, seminary trained Babtist minister, teaches fencing, which he includes in his activities when he travels overseas.

(Message edited by moxnix on February 04, 2012)
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Boltrider
Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Everyone fights, no one quits. If you don't do your job, I'll shoot you. Do you get me?"

- Starship Troopers (1997)
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, I keep trying to read the article grumpy posted ('cause I LOVE laughing at Scientologists), and I keep getting an error.

The page loads, I see the article for 0.5 seconds, and then I get a "Connection reset" error. I can refresh, and it does this over and over and over.

I think the Scientologist hackers are trying to prevent this story from spreading.

~SM
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swordsman,

Go to http://www.ap.org/ then put French scientologists into the search engine.
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Tankhead
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big fan of krakhauer. Rented the book that you ment char. I post up what I think.
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rock Slyde, a comedy detective movie with Patrick Warburton and Andy Dick was on the moronoscope tonight. Dick is Bart, head of the Church of Bartology. If one disagrees with Scientology, it's amusing.
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