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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi All,

I have wasted the rear on the cheap tires I have on my 00 M2. I will be riding this bike as a sport tourer with some serious interstate miles from time to time. This bike won't do track duty - but will do some canyon carving.

Recommendations?
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Fran_dog
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/07october05_pirelli _strada.htm

http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/accessories/p ilot-road.php

http://www.canyonchasers.net/blog/archives/75-Cont inental-Road-Attacks-Tested.html

I haven't run any of these three tire options, but I have heard good things about all of them.

Have fun and Ride safe.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really liked the set of Metzler Z6's I put on my M2. I did not put a lot of miles on them before I sold it but they worked very well for me, a major improvement over the original Dunlops.

They are probably a good choice for occasional and only moderately aggressive canyon carving, longer trips or cruising, and good in wet weather. And they should also be good for moderate to high mileage, like 6,000-10,000 miles or so.

The KV has some good discussions on tires for the tubers. Some good reports based on first hand experience and for a variety of riding styles.

Jack
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Buellboyblue
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

me too! for my '99 Cyclone. Thinking Conti Road Attack or Bridge Battle Axe or Avon Storm, but like the idea of a Dunlop 616 or similar, as I ride some gravel. thanks for links fran dog. read 'em too. the more i read the confuseder i get! and best place(s) to order from ? and any other sizes beside 170/60 or 180/55-17 likely to fit? Thanks ! ~fng
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michelin Pilot Roads are good for sport touring. Got about 14000 miles on my rear Suz.1200 Bandit. I'm currently running Dunlop D205 SportMax's on both my Suzi and Buell Cyclone. Jury's still out. Wet handling properties are good though. I've been getting my tires from Dennis Kirk. Make sure your shop will install your tires if you order them on line. Many bike shops will not install internet or mail order tires.
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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MeZ6: about 4-6000 miles on the rear depending on throttle-hand heavy-handedness. Front lasts longer, but I usually end up replacing them both anyway.

This is on a '96 S2T with luggage. Mostly sport touring.

Henrik
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Buellboyblue
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks all for your input. What's up w/Pirelli "free front" deal ?...and best sites to buy ? I'm liking AmericanMotoTire prices, so far, have checked others but wondering about your fav's ?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I liked the Z6's... they were my favorite until I tried the Scorpion Syncs. I would recommend both, but the Syncs seem to both stick better and last longer. I have not had that same tire on the same bike though (M2 for the Z6, 9sx for the Syncs). So I am guessing, but it's an educated guess.

Those Z6's are great tires... I was behind Henrik for a few hundred miles on rainy NC roads... my Syncs were almost good enough to keep up with his M6's, which were almost good enough to keep up with a Victory, which was dicing with a couple road kings... the white one being *way* up ahead. No idea what rubber Ferris was running, but it probably would not have helped me : )
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Jackbequick
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There you go, the first hand inputs on the Z6's from the guys that have used them.

Another thing to consider on tires is that if you buy a high mileage tire and it takes more than about three years to accumulate that mileage, you have to consider issues like age hardening and long term exposure to UV.

I'd never want to leave a set of tires on a bike for five years and would prefer fresh rubber every second or third riding season.

There does seem to be a consistency in the quality on the Metzlers though. When I needed tires for my Dyna recently, I looked for something that might work better than the Harley-branded Dunlops (I was not at all impressed or happy with them). I tried a set of Metzler ME-880's and am tickled pink with them. I've put 1,200 miles on them in the last three weeks and can only describe the handling on the FXD as near-perfect now (for what the bike is and intended for). It'll never see another set of Dunlop D-4xx tires, Harley-Davidson branded or not.

The Z6's and ME-880's have similar shapes and rain sipes. The sipe pattern is more diagonal whereas the Dunlops had a tread pattern that was more radial around the tire. I think those things are making the difference in the handling on the Dyna.

The Dunlops were imprecise and tended to induce slight shimmies on any patched cracks or running seams in the pavement. They were disconcerting at best. The ME-880's seem to just take me where I want to go without my giving it a thought. And I've been intentionally running on the cracks and seams and have not felt the slightest tremor from it yet.

And my gas mileage went up about 4-6 MPG!

Next time, I'm also going to take a close look at the Scorpion Synch's too.

I don't want to hijack the thread but I definitely think the Metzlers are worth a look and maybe for any bike.

Jack
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well - I waited until the last minute (yesterday). I am going to be doing about 3K miles on the bike beginning this afternoon (headed to the 1125R track day in Utah from Seattle). So - the only tires that fit and in stock where the BT021's. Have seen good comments about them in other threads - will post a tire report from this trip.
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Loki
Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

being a Metzeler fan for quite some time now......

I shod the RS with some Z6 RoadTecs. Very nice tire. Stable in the wet and dry and just sticky enuff for the more spirited rides.
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Buellboyblue
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

down to Conti RoadAttack or Pirelli DiabloStrada...Any info on a Pirelli "free front" deal ? Are badwebbers discouraged from promoting personal fav websites ?

thanks

-Kinley 99M2
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Naustin
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let us know. I put a set of BT-021s on at the beginning of the summer and have a little over 3,000 miles, almost all of it 2-up 65-75+ mph and the rear is just about cooked. I'm about 1mm from the wear bars and it is pretty squared off. I'm really dissappointed, but then again, all those miles were 2-up... This is an S3T and my wife and I together go about 310 lbs.
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Toona
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kinley, I'm runnin' the Conti Road Attacks. I'm on my 2nd rear- the first lasted 7k with a lot of spirited riding. The front still looks like it will last another 7k, so I'll replace it when I replace the rear next time.

I'm gonna go the the RA's again, they are that nice of a tire.
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting thread. Makes me think we need to keep a tire database. Blake - can you PM me with the requirements to host an Application? I work in the software industry and can build it - just need to know the hosting requirements.

Ok - here is the first leg. I rode 731 miles today. Part of it in the rain and ALL of it at 80+ MPH. I have NO COMPLAINTS at all. I was taking 45 MPH curves at 70 with confidence. The tires still look BRAND new - complete with the "nipples" still attached both front and back. That part is weird - I am a big guy (240 LBS) and carrying at LEAST 50 lbs in luggage. So the bike is fully loaded - yet am not seeing the kind of wear I would expect. I cornered pretty hard at speed - I still have about 1/4" of chicken strips (normal for me) but the nipples have not wore off.

Anyway - this is just day one of a long road trip - will post more later.

mit_godgiB
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Alchemy
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am told air pressure has a lot to do with wear. I am running a Metzler M3 and the factory rep said that the mileage drops about 1k with a drop of 1 psi. Seems if you want optimal mileage you need to keep the tire pretty close to max pressure as stated on the tire... at least for Metzlers.
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Buellboyblue
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

went with Road Attacks, thanks guys. C'mon UPS ! whew, i hate complicated decisions : )
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My BT021's were great tires but hit the wear bars after 5k miles, and are about corded at 6k.

I've got Conti Road Attacks on the way.

One thing I've noticed about the BT021's is that the front wears pretty consistantly with the rear. Normally I can get 2 rears out of each front, but not with these.

Deffinately keep the pressure up if your touring on them!
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M2nc
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The longest mileage I have gotten on the back of the M2 was the OEM Dunlop D205. The best combination of Freeway and sport touring was a D207 sport tire in front with the D205 sport touring tire in the rear. 9000 miles up front and 5700 miles my best on the rear.

I have Diablo Stradas on the Uly. The front tire has 10,000 miles on it and it is spent. I got 5,000 miles out the first rear tire and the second seems to be getting about the same.

I have the Avon AV45/AV46 tires on the M2 now. I do not have enough mileage on the tires to comment on life span of the tire.
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What about the factory Dunlap D616 on the Uly? They seem like they would be a great all around tire. What kind of mileage are people getting out of them?
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