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Buellnewbie
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me if the frame on the XB12 gets hot from being in close proximity to the rear cylinder? If so, how bad is it? My R1 frame got so hot I couldn't touch it for more than a few seconds. thanks
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Xb12burner
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It gets pretty warm down there, but I've never been too uncomfortable, unless I've had to sit in traffic for a bit and then I can feel it on my right leg pretty good. Just riding on the interstate or in the twisties I never notice it.
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Apex_assasian
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no problems here and i live in fla...it does get pretty warm though
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New12r
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As long as you dont try to wear shorts you will be fine.
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Bruceclay
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

100 deg. heat here in TX and a few minutes of stop and go traffic your leg is toast.

Air flow is decent enough that you won't notice it at highway speed though.
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Spike
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It can definitely carry some heat, but it's not really enough to cause a problem. If you ride in shorts you'll probably experience some discomfort, but while riding in jeans I've never had it hot enough to become an issue. There are some cases when riding in really nasty stuff where I want to leave my right leg a bit loose, but I've never seen it hot enough to actually cause a burn.

This may sound funny, but I've noticed that the frame on my XB actually gets hotter after parking the bike for a while after a long ride on a hot day.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ride in shorts all the time, and no problems with heat. Its a little warm after a while but i dont get sweatycrotch like my Ducati gives me
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Vaneo1
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, the right leg will scortch if your waiting in traffic for too long. Ive had a small irritation on my upper thigh becasue the heat has burnt my leg, and I ALWAYS wear pants while riding. I love my XB12R so much that I seem to look past it while riding. Buying my new Buell is probably the first time Ive ever been happy about owing $$$

(Message edited by vaneo1 on September 24, 2005)
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had no problems with engine heat, even after a thousand mile day, the frame is no more than warm. it contains the liquid fuel, so is absolutely limited in the temperature that can attain. the exact vapor pressure, and boiling point of gasoline varies considerably with georaphical region, and also with altitude, but in any case, any conditions in which a human being could reasonably be expected to survive while riding the Buell XB will not be hindered by the temperature of the aluminum frame.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

????COMO WHAT????
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Interex2050
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

During the summer I dont notice it.
When it gets colder/rainier its actually nice.
The only times its a little irritating is when I am stuck in traffic with someone on the back, but that rarely is the case.
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Firewhirl
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On hot days during rush stop and go my inner thighs are toast. so hot it becomes extremely painful. I end up with red blotches on my legs that last for hours. The frame does get really hot near the rear cylinder but the heat that burns my legs is mostly from those holes on each side of my xb9r rear body work, the air flow is directed right onto the my inside thighs when the fan kicks on.

I challenge anyone to ride my bike with shorts in those conditions, you will end up in E.R. with 1st or 2nd degree burns.

(Message edited by firewhirl on September 24, 2005)
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i can understand putting around the backyard on a 50 cc mini bike in shorts, but riding a motorcycle on the street in shorts is..... STUPID.



(Message edited by fullpower on September 24, 2005)
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah... what Dean said...

In any case, I've been in Tucson at 115 degrees in stop and go traffic. It does get quite hot but it's never been overbearing and I grew up in Alaska.
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and it's not really the frame. It;s the air coming off the rear header. If there's a breeze it no problem. HD's have always been likt this.
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Buellin_ri
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ridden an r1 and compared to my 9r the r1 frame was super hot.
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Johnb
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Suggestions below that might help w/heat; also, switch from dino to synthetic. Anyone upgrade to a more powerful/quieter fan?
airscoop trojan horse exhaust stock vs wrapped header frame protect frame protectors streamlinecarbon heat blanket underseat seat airhawk exhaust heat shield fan

(Message edited by johnb on September 25, 2005)
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 03:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HEY! THATS MY FAN!!(and its damn noisy like a rock stuck in it)
I never burned my leg but I have burned my arm twice and my knuckle once,all on the header like a dumbarse.
And that tech spec frame grip stuff is TOTAL crap,50$ for stuff that dont stick good AND you have to champfer the edges,plus you can buy the same stuff BY THE YARD at any home depot for ALOT cheaper.


(Message edited by buelltroll on September 25, 2005)
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The right side air scoop will help greatly.
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My new XB12Ss gets quite warm in stop & go traffic, but I've never experienced anything close to bodily harm as suggested above. I have ridden in shorts and flip flops at the beach (sorry Fullpower) without burning myself. It does get uncomfortable though. My XB9 didn't seem to be as hot but it was broken in, had synthetic oil and ceramic coated headers.
I saw that right side air scoop at Liberty HD this weekend & I think I may get one.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This right side air scoop, can it be used in conjunction with the left side? Or do most or all people lose the left side scoop once the right side one in installed?
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vaneo, yes. I have it and my fan comes on waaaay less. Seems to help.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the frame does get a little too toasty on your thigh, you might be a little low on gas. From my experience the frame stays noticably cooler on the right with it full of fuel.
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Brucelee
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"This right side air scoop, can it be used in conjunction with the left side? Or do most or all people lose the left side scoop once the right side one in installed?"

Use both! Best mod I ever added on the XB.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SWEET!! Ill have to get the left side air scoop then. I was a little skeptical about buying an air cooled engine as opposed to staying with liquid cooled. Wheres the best place to get this mod?
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the guys at the Liberty HD party on Saturday said he got his from Trojan. It was fiberglass & he painted it black.
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Johnb
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone on a sacborg ulysses forum said/did this:
Thermo-Shield aluminized adhesive-backed 2000 degree F tape
The frame rails get pretty hot with the pipes and motor so close. I went to the local auto speed shop in Sacramento, CA. Picked up some pressure sensitive heat tape. (2000 degree stuff) and attached it to the inside of the frame rails. I also wrapped the rear exhaust pipe with exhaust pipe wrap. (From the head down about 4 inches). Seems to have helped quite a bit.
http://www.sacborg.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=013152&p=13
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&part=THE-14002&N=120+301923
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so I'm stupid for riding in shorts? how childish that anyone would suggest it is stupid. exactly how long do you expect your levi's to last when you hit the pavement? pfffft. Stick to advice and keep the namecalling to yourself.
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Fullpower
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pwnzor sez "I ride in shorts all the time"
Dean sez " riding a motorcycle on the street in shorts is..... STUPID."
that is not 'namecalling', rather it is a subjective classification of behavior. I stand behind my statement.

(Message edited by fullpower on September 29, 2005)
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Blake
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree. Riding a motorcycle on the street in shorts is... STUPID. I used to do it. I am wiser now.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not allowed to ride in shorts because I live on a military base but I've always wondered why people do.
Don't you get a assload of bugs up yer leg?
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've wrapped my headers, and I've noticed less heat.
I've also got the carbon fiber frame protectors, I'm not sure if they help with heat at all.
I want to get a right side air scoop next.
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Jlnance
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to do it. I am wiser now.

Was aquiring that wisdom painful?
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Aydenxb9
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeans will last about 10' before your skin will be ground from your body, your bare skin is instant.
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