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Rain_bolt
Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 03:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We want a Buell dirt bike ! ! ! ! ! !
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They came to snuff the Rooster, slaughtered the Dirty Muell too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snkbewlsUVk
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know but there is only one way to get it going, and its not by giving up. So I'll just keep waiting and hoping.
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Clrobins
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

theres too much competition, Buell would have no chance. Every manufacturer has a dirtbike, even husky. They need to bring back the tuber!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They dont need a dirt bike for Motorcrossing, it is too competitive and too expensive to break into that field at this point. But a well positioned Dual sport or Super moto in the 450 field would do well. Dirt dress for the guys that will use it. Street set up for a Blast redux. That lil KLR250 has been a strong seller for over the last 20 years. I see them every time I go trail riding. Make it street legal, give it some clearance, make it decent power to weight, and come out in orange and I will get one.
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Clutchless
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still think the blast should get a Dual-sport make over.

In short, I wanna buell dirtbike too. (sniffle, whimper)

I might get orange too, hmm.
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah a Blast with a higher suspension, bigger wheels, chain, maybe a little longer swing arm, no truck fender out back and a motocross fender in front.
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got bored.

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

reroute the exhaust to a high side with a heat shield similar to scramblers, put a bash plate on the bottom of the block ( i need that) headlight, front blinkers, color it orange.... Let me know when it is ready, THAT is the bike I would pay for.
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I had the money, I'd build it. It would be a fun little challenge.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Problem is, it would still be so HEAVY. What they really need is the Rotax 450 in a space aluminum perimeter frame... put it at the sub 300 lbs mark.
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would have to agree with that.
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets go back for a moment, think Buell Motorcycles.......

Big old lump of "Old School" engine making lots of torque, placed in a superior chassis, begin making revolutionary design improvements that are light years ahead of the competition, the natural design progression from Tubers to the XB platform, then comes.......1125R. I know the Blast is capable of making more horse power and torque, but it is handicapped by the engine weight issues.

To make a competitive Dirty Big Single, you would have to go all new, and that would be a radical departure from the natural design progression of Buell Motorcycles.

You would be placed in a position competing in a market against big manufacturers that already have the distribution, advertising and sales "Figured out" handicapping all the effort trying to enter a new design into a new market.

Sorry, I have tons more to say.....
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have to start somewhere. I'm not the most knowledgeable about KTM, but they did a pretty good job busting into the sport bike world from the land of dirt bikes. Which I would think would be more difficult then going the other way around. Really the 1125R is an all new bike. Though it uses the same ideas, it’s a completely new bike. Much like going the dirt bike route would need an all new bike. Maybe I'm just hoping for to much, but I think it would be possible. Maybe in a year or two after the 1125R has been around a little longer.

P.S. Buell jumped into a market already ruled by the big 4 and others, but they managed. Why not again.

(Message edited by rain_bolt on March 21, 2008)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like Aprilia just came out with a Enduro 450. No list on specs, price or availability. If it is less money than the KTM .... maybe red isnt such a bad color after all.
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