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Court
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Are there no front brakes on Aarons new LSR bike?
Of course not. 40 miles to coast to a stop and the chance to loose the weight/drag dictates removal.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JimS,
Call the hotel (or wherever you had it sent to) or the post office (if you sent it to yourself there as "general delivery like some backpackers have been known to do) and tell them to mark the package (in the voice of Elvis):
"Return to Sender"
"Recipient not at this location"
"Bonneville Salt Flats flooded"

or words to that effect.
Should work.
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Blacksix
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who talked Blake into shaving?
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That be RacerX then......

Blake realised, after speaking with the Racer, that he could shave himself for the cost of a wet razor and shaving foam. Ok the razor and foam cost $4, and to the 'naked eye' the shave looks as close as that from a top quality barber, but the barber would have charge at least $24. Not that you'd ever tell the difference in drag factor without putting Blake's chin on a smooth-o-meter, but allegedly Blake's Buell now goes .567 MPH faster when he rides it :)

Nice meeting ya Blake and thanks for the cool gifts......

DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS , right !!!

Rocket
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Roc
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron and Susan, thank you for hosting.

Aaron and Peter, thank you for the bike help. I've called Aerocharger but no word back yet, not a suprise. Do either of you recall the RPM of my 125 HP run? I think it was low and that torque was about 125 too, maybe?

It was great meeting many of you for the first time and seeing all of the familiars again. Great folks, all of you. I almost always ride alone, I always wrench alone, and it was nice to change that for a bit.

Nykk - I'm happy you traveled with us.

Rocket - I have no doubt you did 170, but why so slow?
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Phillyblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm Baaaack!!
tiring ride, picking up the dog at the parents house. I'll post a ride report and pics later. Suffice to say low 30s through South Dakota and fogged in in Wisconsin.
Nykk - Rushmore's nothing compared to Crazy Horse. Thanks Dale and Tammy for the tip.
Saw Buell, didn't see Erik, got pics of the RW. Thanks Court.
Thanks to the Wilson's for their hospitality and generosity, and thanks to Aaron for the extra 8 hp. Too bad he took them back :-)
David
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Josh
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Phillyblast I was wondering when you'd check in. See any more Ducs out playing in the rain?
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Pilot
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pilot has arrived home tired and in need of a shower.Thank You to all involved in Team Elves.
Ross Northwood
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Aaron
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ross, glad you made it here and back safely, what a trip! It was great to finally meet you, thanks again for coming.

Rocky, see for yourself ...

Rocky's S2
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Peter
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Dutch contingent has also arrived back safe and sound. I think Rocket is probably doing the final leg of his journey now.
Aaron and Susan, thanks again for your hospitality. Although the trip didn't turn out as expected, I had a great time. The riding up in your mountains was fantastic. I just hope you are able to adjust to having some peace and tranquility at home again.......
Pete
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Court
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I just hope you are able to adjust to having some peace and tranquility at home again.......

Absolutely without equal, the Wilson's hospitality. Imagine......with one rain shower you house becomes the HEADQUARTERS for roughly 20 folks for a week!

Aaron and Susan are wonderful and giving folks but they have raised the hospitality bar beyond reach..leaving only one thing to say...

THANK YOU FROM ALL OF THE ELVES
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Phillyblast
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick (not really) ride report - but before that - I missed 4 canyons on Sunday!
Just as well, the aging Dunlops didn't exactly inspire confidence. Needless to say they're getting replaced next week, since they now have a flat spot from the 3600 miles I put on them this past few days.
From the beginning:
Tuesday afternoon Josh emailed to say he could fit the S2 on the trailer from St. Louis to Casa de Wilson. Trick was getting the S2 to St. Louis. So I rode it. Did just about 1000 miles Wed. to get there, but it only rained for about an hour.
Spent the night (what was left of it) at Josh and Mariabelen's place - best accomodations the whole trip. Met their puppy
Trailered the bikes to Co. in the rain, sorted by year of course. Next time we'll put the bikes with fairings facing front.
You all know what happened over the weekend - this is what I felt like trying to hang with Jilles
Excellent guard rails in Co.
Sunday met a sassy waitress at the breakfast place, should have gone to breakfast earlier in the week.
Left in the AM for Rushmore, Wyoming is very windy and extremely desolate. Got passed while doing 90. Crazy Horse is immense and impressive. The naked ambition of the project hits you the minute you see it, and even unfinished it's awe-inspiring. It stirred me the way Buell motorcycles do, unfinished and imperfect in some ways, but exuding greatness, reflecting the singular vision of it's creator. That one man's Quixotic quest to create something "different in every sense" could bring all of us together is staggering. The white polish and perfection of Rushmore pales in comparison, like a UJM next to an S1. Yes, Rushmore is completed, but I'm reminded of Browning's admonition "that a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Buells, and Buell people, seem to reach higher. And for that I thank you.
From there I started across South Dakota for the ride home. about 120 miles in the temps had dropped into the low 30s, so I looked for a place to stay, hoping it would warm up in the AM. It didn't. Temps in the 30s and winds from the North at 24 mph and up conspired to make for a shivering ride across SD leaning left the entire time. It was in the 80s in Philly when I left, so I wasn't dressed for it.
Made the Wisconsin/Minnesota border by nightfall, no cell phone access, and then got fogged in the next AM. Late start, still cold, made it down to East Troy, bike puked a glob of oil from the breather onto the cases a few miles from Buell, must have been homesick, since it didn't do it at any other point in the trip.
From there, two days home in progressively warmer weather, nothing else to see, just making time on the turnpike.
Anyone riding to York this weekend?
David
p.s. Jim that's an awful purty yellow S2 in your photos.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,can you e-mail me copies of my dyno runs?Be nice to have them in my bike log.Thanks.And another BIG Thanks to you and Susan for all the help and hospitality!!!!I only need to get 1 day off to make October meet,hoping for good weather to dry up salt!!!
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Roc
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron/Peter/anyone who might care, I spoke with Jim at Aerocharger today. He said I should be seeing around 150 RWHP with my current set up. He is pretty sure the ignition is to blame, saying the Dyna 2000's gave them lots of problems and that they no longer carry them. I will post more later in the More Power section of the KV. Thank you all for you help last weekend, particularly Aaron and Peter.
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Peter
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roc,
Did he recommend a different module to use?
No problem with the help from me. I'm learning as well, so thank you too.
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Roc
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Peter - Crane HI-4E, or so he thought off of the top of his head. More in KV.
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Jssport
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HHmmmm,... using Big Twin aftermarket ignitions (Crane HI-4E) for your Buell ???

Go with a fully programable unit would be a much better choice. HeadQuarters offers such a unit, Dale A (Rattler) has all the low down on these units.

Dale, you in here ???
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Josh
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah but be careful with the curve to start out. That much power a little pinging goes along way.
Did we find out what the VOES/Nitrous retard circuit was hooked to?
If the plugs keep fouling you might try Torqumaster plugs.
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Pammy
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crane makes a great ignition for the Buells as does Daytona Twin Tech. Both are fully adjustable and work beautifully.
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Josh
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Aaron!

The S1 as delivered and after the aircleaner and pipe swap.

Nallin Heads
the S1 vs the S3 with Nallin stage 1 heads.
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Aaron
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FMJ: here's the one I posted on the "who's going to Bonneville" page (right click and save it) ...



Are there others you want? Which ones?

AW
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Rattler
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more hopped up you make your bike, sometimes the better the BT ignitions will work on it. BT's use more agressive curves than what stock Sportsters/Buells have. The curves are more aggressive for BT's based on the combustion chamber width size. Just keep that comparison in mind when using these units with the smaller head chambers of engines in the Buell/Sportster line-up.

I agree with Pammy, the Daytona twin tec ignition is a good one for the same price almost as the Dyna's & The Crane Hi4E's. V- Thunder also sells a like unit. In the Sportster world, the "selectable" ignition modules only have 1 out of the 4 curves that seem to work well with this engine, even in a hopped up set-up. Sometimes 2 curves will work out Okay...depending on set-up. Not much selectability their, if only one curve does you any good. What Aaron does on the dyno with ignitions is the only real good way to dial one in....retarding & or advancing it, until the dyno tells you, their is a fall off in power. This may not always be the best setting for a street bike with higher than stock compression though as part throttle pinging can play into it.

The HQ ignition is the Twic Tec ignition with HQ's own proprietary curves loaded. Zippers sells it also with their own curves.

The Twin Tec folks are the original engineers from Crane who bailed, after getting tired of Crane to get off their duff's & introduce the fully programmbale ignition units. They made a good choice IMO!

The SE Programmable module is really the Crane programmable module minus the cable link (still) to do any adjusting of it.

Dale A.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,was looking for one with HP and torque curves,if ya got it.Thanks,FMJ.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,I seem to remember that your M-2 was revving to 7,500--would setting rev limiter higher on the S-2 help make a couple more hp?I have to check what I have it set to.Chart seems to stop at 7000.
Anybody making plans for the October meet at this time?Looks very doable for me--only have to get 1 day off of work.
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Josh
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FMJ,
From the looks of the above chart, your HP peaks at 6500 and starts dropping. Reving higher won't help that. What head work do you have? See my chart of my S3vsS1 above? The S3's HP is still climbing at 7000 and would benefit from a higher rev limit (if the ECM could feed it and the stock springs handle it) thanks to Nallin Stg1 heads.
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Aaron
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FMJ ... what Josh said, your motor is running out of breath before it hits 7000 (keep in mind that it's a bigger motor than mine or Josh's, and as such, it wants to run out of breath sooner).

If you want to twist it tighter, you need to identify what's holding it back. I'd be a little suspicious of that small carb on it (it's an HSR42, right?). Could be the cams, though, perhaps a set of 643's would help. A little shorter on the exhaust might help too.

If you want to lose that drag-pipe induced mid range reversion, and make the chart look pretty, get a Zipper's Thunderjet kit. You'll need to jet the main quite a bit leaner at the same time. The leaner main jet will clean up that mid-range, then the Thunderjet will kick in on the top end where the pipe starts working and provide the fuel it needs. Notice how relatively clean my 100" motor's chart is, despite having a similar length exhaust; the difference is the Thunderjet.

I can generate the chart you're asking for, I'll mail it to you.

I'm planning on going in October.
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Josh
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well either we're getting more popular or people would rather watch us party than race ;)

teamelves.com
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Paulinoz
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PaulinOz got home finaly, 4 am Saturday morning have been asleep for 13 hours since arriving home.
Missed one flight due to lines to be x-rayed longer and slower than the lines a certain Brit takes around a corner. (just kidding Rocket).
Susan and Aaron thankyou does not say it all for what you guys did to help us. The Rockies are awsome so are freindships that I have made.
Susan,FMJ,Henrick and Grizz I have to go shoping this morning but I know it will never be the same again.
Blake I hold you responsible for one of the best hollidays I have ever had (Thankyou).

I have always belived we are here for a good time not a long time and Thanks to Susan,Aaron and the rest of the Buell / Sporster family that came together in Co for 10 days I had the Best of Times with people that I am proud to call MATES.
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Madduck
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,

Just checked the Wendove weather. cold and rainy thru thursday next week. It is really not looking good for October. We are prepping and adjusting travel gear and plans to run at any or all of the meets next year. Good news, found more power for S2, really want to run at Maxton, but they are having problems too. Hurricane this weekend and some of the critical volunteer staff are unable to work due to personal difficulties. This year may not be after all.

Ya'll take care now.

Paul
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Choptop
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Team Galbraith is planning on being at Bonneville in Oct. weather permitting.

Keeping up the good thoughts, but the weather forecast dont look good.
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul,

You are one of a kind. I am also proud to call you Mate. It was quite special to meet you and the rest of the contingent from abroad. I only wish you could have seen all of us run. I hope to get the chance to see you next year without the precipitation. Thanks for all of the help.

Ray
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FMJ,

If you decide on a bigger carb, I could be very interested in the 42. Also don't forget the bag. It was a pleasure swapping war stories with you.

Also, how the folks at Air-Tec to work with. Thinking about some more body work for the Blast.

Ray
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Aaron
Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Griz
Don't feed the bears! I'm happy to report that this bear-proof trash can worked beautifully, Griz did not break in and eat from it.


Griz again
What's that big mound of dirt and rock with trees on it? (says the flying Dutchman)


Long's Peak
Peter was leading and we *almost* blew right by this viewpoint of Long's Peak (elev. 14,255) without stopping for pictures. L to R: Paul's rental M900, Peter on the GS, Henrik's rental GS, Ross on the S1, Griz's rental Tiger, my S2T, Paul blocking the view of the "no tresspassing" sign, SteveP's Firebolt.
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Josh
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I know that view
Whats that white stuff?
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh,
I like your view MUCH better. ;)
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