G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile

Buell Forum » Big, Bad & Dirty (Buell XB12X Ulysses Adventure Board) » BB&D Archives » Archive through April 10, 2006 » Uly to XB12Ss conversion « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Para504
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm interested in what it would take to convert the Uly to a XB12Ss configuration. I already have the Uly, but I'm interested in doing at least a partial conversion. I'm not interested in the lower seat - I want to lower the bike a bit.

I'm looking for something in-between the two bikes, maybe 5.25 - 5.5" front travel. I know, the grass is always greener next to the model that you don't have...

Lowering the rear - go with a XB12Ss shock or similar? If that's the route, does that mean I'd have to convert the tail section (sub frame / seat)? It would be great if I could get by with retaining the existing tail. I'm thinking the front could be lowered by 1.5" by a suspension shop, without impacting performance (other than travel).

Thoughts, tips, watch-outs, SWAG at cost, etc. are welcomed & appreciated!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dennis_c
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gain 150lbs. that will help lower it. The cost is free $$$$$
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Stevem123
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I was just pondering on your quest for a lean mean lowered machine and I think you could retain the stock forks by loosing the handle bars and going to some clip-ons. That way you could slide the forks up into the trees more and attach the clip-ons to the tops of the forks above the trees. Then all you need is a shorter rear shock.

I have an idea of a special bracket to move the shock to a different mounting position but I'm still working on it in my head.

Does that help a little?

BC Steve
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Windrider
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Para504,

Here is a quote from a post on the ADV board from someone who has seen a lowered Uly done by a dealer:

"Lowered Ulysses
I rode one this morning. Deluxe HD/Buell in Gillette Wy has one sitting on the floor. It was the only one they had set up for demo, so thats what I rode. I asked how they lowered it, if they had just stuck the XB12Ss suspesion under it or what. The guy in charge said that I was very "Astute". They do a lot of flat track racing, and had their suspension guy down in Colorado Springs set it up, revalve it and lower it. It had a factory low seat on it too. Felt a lot like my Concours. At 5'8 I could flat foot it with no problems. I have ridden a 12Ss before, but not a Ulysses, and I found it very simmilar to the Ss, and maybe not harsher, but certainly stiffer than I expect a regular height Ulysses will ride."

You can find the thread at:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127618&page=3&highlight=lowered+ Ulysses

If you really want to pursue this I would give them a call.

Best of luck,

WindRider
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dakotadon
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey that is from me!

New guy here, Don, from Glendive, Montana.

Picked up my black Ulysses from the dealer I was talking about in the above quote on Saturday. Got my break in miles put in and first oil change done over the rest of the weekend. Planning on a road trip down to southern Wyoming this weekend, if the weather cooperates.

The dealer treated me well, and I will take my bike back to them for the first service, but I will do my own work after that.

The Dealer was Deluxe Harley, in Gillette if anyone has any questions about how their suspension people lowered the bike I demoed. I did get a full sized version, and it works great for me so far.

Website is...

http://gillette.deluxehd.com/

No affiliations, they just did right by me so far.

Looking forward to riding this thing a bunch more!!!

Don
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You would need the XB12SS seat, plastic undertray and battery box assembly. You would also need either the stock XBS tail or one of the aftermarket versions. You can use the existing Uly side rails but need to tap a couple of the cast in lugs to accept the new fittings. All in all it is a very easy conversion to do.

The bike feels lower and easier to control with this setup simply because the seat is narrower. We also put lower bars and higher pegs (not shown in this pic) on ours and found the riding position perfect.






Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Para504
Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great feedback guys, thanks! Sweet looking bike Trojan! I was thinking along the same lines, but a little lower. Not sure if sliding the forks would do it, unless you could do a similar thing to the rear (like the bracket that was mentioned)? I'd be concerned about imbalanced front to back suspension action; it may not be a problem at all, and the cheaper/more flexible way of doing it...

Again, thanks for the tips!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Para504
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now that I launched into this project (finally), I just had a "oh sh#t" moment. I ordered a set of helibars for the bike, but its based on a Firebolt. All well and good, but I just remembered the X/Ss have different geometry than the smaller bikes. Will this work with the existing clamp / stem?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Steveford
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode a local fellow's Ulysses that had the Lightning shock and forks on it last week. It felt like a regular Lightning or perhaps a 3/4 size Ulysses.
Very nice bike.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Para504
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a nice set up. The stock Uly is cool too, but I have that incurable "muck with it" disease... I think I caught it when I had my jeep. There was always a different configuration you could play with / tune it to, given your mood & needs.

The plan at this point is to lower it 35mm to about 5" of travel, put a "R" front on it with helibars, and a "S" rear with cowl & "R" taillight (without strainer).

Looking to make a bike that can still eat up New England roads (crappy pavement), but is sportier than the Uly. Also, I want to retain the ability to swap back to a Uly seat & possible luggage when I want to (with a little work, granted)... If nothing else, something a little different... I just hope this doesn't turn into a massive headache / compromise.

(Message edited by Para504 on September 05, 2006)
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and custodians may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration