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R32nj
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What parts would be on the short list of ones to perhaps put on the shelf if trying to keep a Ulysses going for another 5-10 years?
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Front isolator.

Loose that . . . You have a paper weight.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020
Front isolator.
Loose that . . . You have a paper weight.

Agree.
The front & rear isolators are THE key parts that make the XB series work.
You could, I suppose, hard mount the engine.
But I can't imagine riding such a thing for very long.

I would also have a belt on the shelf too.
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Billy_bee
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Out of an abundance of caution, I just ordered a front isolator and a belt. Spensive. But I imagine they will come in handy eventually.

How often do you replace your front isolator? I put one on about 2000 miles ago, but that was in 2016, I think. I imagine both time and miles add up on that part.

When I do replace it, I am going to figure out a replacement for the bushing only. I bet there is some goofball substitution we can make to the bushing that is just as good as (and maybe better than) the original. Some $12 Hyundai Elantra subframe bushing will press right in there and fit perfectly.

I have also thought of going to an industrial supply company for the belt. I have a large walk-behind mover that uses a similar toothed belt. I went to Troy-Bilt and they wanted >$100 for the belt. I went to my local industrial supply shop (in Santa Maria, CA) and they sourced the same belt for $40. Of course, I had to do the leg work and figure out the corresponding part number, but it wasn't rocket science.

Necessity being he mother of invention, I bet we will find ways to make or substitute parts to keep our bikes running. I know I will never buy another sealed bearing from a dealership. My local bearing shop has everything.

--Bill
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Billy_beePosted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:43 pm:
How often do you replace your front isolator?


only when they are broken.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/626617.html
If you search there are other photos of failed isolators.
I road my Buell for 12 years and 42k miles. The isolator was still good.

Billy_beePosted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:43 pm:
When I do replace it, I am going to figure out a replacement for the bushing only. I bet there is some goofball substitution we can make to the bushing that is just as good as (and maybe better than) the original. Some $12 Hyundai Elantra subframe bushing will press right in there and fit perfectly.


You might find a bushing that "fits" but it will not work beyond hanging the engine in the right space in time.
The dynamic action of the rubber is tuned so it smooths out the engine vibration. That and that alone is what makes the XB series bikes rideable.
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you substitute the bushing in the isolator . . . You may get an interesting lesson on harmonic resonance.

I could be wrong.
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Billy_bee
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys are probably right. Wonder how to measure the durometer (?) of the material and maybe mold something up or cut a bushing on a lathe. Maybe I'm just dreaming, but I think it will take some ingenuity to keep these bikes going for the long haul.
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Billy_bee
Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did some research and it appears Twin Motorcycles in The Netherlands made aftermarket front supports. They claimed a harder material and greater durability. They may not be making them anymore. The product page says it is an obsolete part. Anybody have any experience with them?

Here is the URL and product description from the website:
Product description
REPLACEMENT FOR Partnr. L1501.02A8 made by Twin Motorcycles

Buell XB engine mount (front Isolator) for all Buell XB 9/12 models from 2002-2010. This part is Black Anodized to guarantee a long lasting black look.

This Engine mount uses the exsisiting Bolt on your Buell. Clean the OEM bolt and greese it before mounting The design is changed to last longer. We also have 1 year full warranty on this part. The rubber has also more stifness then the OEM part to last longer.

90128A410 Tighten with 66 NM use red loctite
L0512.02A8 or CA0013.02A8 tighten with 66 NM en and use neverseas
Small bolt clutch cable tighten with 12 NM.

https://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp ?mc=1&aid=11583&cid=9986&s=&a=
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