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Hangetsu
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm curious if anyone out there has used or seen up close the Buelltooth exhaust systems. Is the system built with quality, and are there any known problems with the included tuning map?

I'm also curious about the Buelltooth device. There are many threads here about ECM Spy, but I haven's seem much about Buelltooth.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
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Shoggin
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Buelltooth SuperTrapp on the STT and love it. Not too loud, light, good ground clearance, and runs very well.

The Buelltooth bluetooth dongle is simply a wireless connection to the Buell ECM and I like their brand as well.

The computer program you are talking about to adjust the settings in the Buell ECM is called ECMDroid and you can find it on their site as well or the Google Play store for free.

I like ECMDroid because it's easy to use and fairly fool-proof as it won't allow you to download the wrong program (firmware-wise).
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Hangetsu
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shoggin, thanks for the input.

When you installed your pipe, did it come with a fuell map download for the ECM? And, if so, how easy was it to install into the ECM?

I have the stock ECM, so I'm a bit reluctant to download anything into it that could irreversibly screw it up.

Any thoughts regarding that, you or anyone else.

I'm also curious, how does the ECMDroir with the dongle compare with ECMSpy with regards to their functionality?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Shoggin
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya, there's a download and I found it very easy to install. Your computer experience may vary. Lots of install info on that site.

You are supposed to save your original program before you download the new one just in case, like the website says.

I feel ECMDroid is for swapping existing maps, changing ECM parameters, and diagnosis, while ECMSpy is much more detailed and you can build a custom fuel map if thats your thing.
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Hangetsu
Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you, Shoggin. This may be my next purchase and mod.

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Hangetsu
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2018 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone k now if there are any published dyno results for these products? I did a pretty thorough Google search, but didn't come up with anything.
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Shoggin
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why? Going drag racing on your Uly? lol

The old Buell exhaust shoot-out proved that all these aftermarket exhausts are so much better than stock, and more importantly VERY close to each other in peak power and torque curve. You can get an extra HP or two with a huge increase in volume if you really want to roll that way
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Hangetsu
Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2018 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just curiosity. That old comparo did show a few pipes as being enough inferior to others to be worth noting. And there are many anecdotal reports about at least one pipe in the bunch as being pretty useless for anything other than making more noise.

I know nothing about the folks at Buelltooth, so I have no sense for how much knowledge or skill they have in exhaust design.

Here's an experience I once had that makes me hesitant to just jump at something like this without having some deeper, confidence building knowledge. This is going back a few years to my first real road bike, a 750 Combat Commando.

I regularly attended local Motorcycle swap-meets in SoCal, and at one I found a sweet (looking) two-into-one header/megaphone for a Norton Commando. I was assured that it was a simple bolt-on affair and that I would experience significant HP and torque increases. However, after I installed the thing, the bike ran like crap, and even after trying every tuning option there was no improvement, so I returned the pipe. The interesting thing was, a few months later I installed a pair of Dunstall Decibel Silencers, and I experienced a notable increase in low and mid-range HP and torque with no supplementary tuning. I have to assume it was all in the pipe design.

So, I only ask these questions because, if I choose to invest $$$ in a new exhaust, I want to be sure it will deliver as advertised.
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Tleighbell
Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2018 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL I had that piece of crap two into one on my Commando too. It eventually cracked from vibration because the two header pipes were joined solid whereas the original exhaust was rubber mounted to the frame. Long time ago. LIve and learn.
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