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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Now I have to figure out how to make it work on the ULY!! Could have used this on my last trip!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy crap!
What's in the box? how does it work?
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Sagehawk
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tootal, you been holding out on us!
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I remember buying this for my 65 Ford Galaxy but I never got around to putting it on. I put one on a friends car and it worked. I thought I had given it to my dad years ago to put on one of my step brother's car but evidently I couldn't find it at the time to give it to him.

There's an old saying that says if you still have parts for a car, (or bike), that you haven't owned in ten years then you might be a car, (bike), guy. I found that cruise control and the mirrors off my 1976 BMW 2002! Or they could have been off my 1974 Karmann Ghia!
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nate, It used a magnet glued to the drive shaft with a sensor screwed to the body. It has a black box controller that has a cable to control the throttle on the carburetor. I need to actually look in the box and see how big the black box is and how long of a cable it has. I could put the magnet on the idler pulley and the sensor down there somewhere.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tootal,
Don't become a Darwin award winner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y92NgQxg8BQ
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess it used a vacuum servo to do the pulling like on the factory jobs of the era?

I managed to fix my $300 '81 olds cutlass cruise control.
It was very crude. The speedo cable was either split or it had two separate cables from the tranny. One of course went to your dash. The other went to the "black box".
Inside the black box, there was a mechanism very similar to that of a speedometer but instead of turning a needle, it turned a cylindrical thing with a slot cut into it.
This slot would align with an outer sleeve's vacuum port.
All I did to fix it was take it apart, clean it and reassemble it.

That beater was an odd one. It had a teeny 4.3L V8 which I think was good for 48 horsepower. Hood and trunk lid were aluminum for some reason. I know this because the paint was coming off in sheets.

That powerless engine earned some respect from me when I drove it from Worcester to Douglas with no coolant. Water pumps are optional when driving an anvil.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put in two or three of those things. As sketchy as they sound, they all worked great.

How interested would people be in a proper cruise control kit for a Uly? I've toyed with the idea of making one.
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been thinking about it for a long time. Probably originally thought of it while drinking out of a mason jar around a campfire in Georgia, but that's another story. Remind me to tell you some time!

I opened the box and that vacuum servo is huge for a bike! The black box is pink and the wiring harness is a wad of pasta! I don't know if I have enough room to mount that vacuum servo but I will give it a look.
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Sagehawk
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Tootal, you'll just have to build a trailer for it then won't ya?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That picture scares me in multiple ways, almost as much as the JC Penny branded tires!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do recall the vacuum servo being pretty big. It fit under the hood of a Chevette fine though. Good memories, my Grandpa helped me install that. I don't think I was even old enough to drive yet.

I think I could do it now with an arduino and a 1.5"x1"x.75" electrical servo.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True dat. I was actually thinking that you could even tap into the tachometer signal since the bikes have manual transmissions.

It would be like having a speed governor for a briggs powered cement mixer : )
Pull the clutch and the engine just revs along at 3128RPM.

I had a thought of doing that with my civic only with op amps. I had a hard enough time keeping it running without added complexity though.
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sagehawk, I'm thinking side car!

Froggy, I realize the thought of using vacuum to control something would be scary to you. I mean if it's not electronic and can attach to the handlebars you're lost!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to just tie it into the speedo sensor feed to the ECM. Then also tie into the brake light. Easy Peasy. Heck, tie it into the flash to pass and you don't even need any external switches.

It would be high risk though, and a litigation magnet. So I might build one for myself and document the design, but it would be crazy to build and sell one.

Mike messed up that plan by giving me a very nice throttle lock when he sold me his XT. Just a mechanical stop, but it works pretty well to uncramp hands. If you want plans for a real buell cruise control, you may have to come steal that throttle lock. ; )
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Buellerxt
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you like it, Bill. Not cruise control but pretty darn close since it is so easy to tweak for an mph, or two, either way.
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>That picture scares me in multiple ways, almost as much as the JC Penny branded tires!

I'm wondering if I should have thrown away my first car phone . . . . but, at nearly 80# and with vacuum tubes getting harder to come by . . . it was probably time.

It was such as attractive pastel foam green with the rotary dial.

Court
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