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Maximum
| Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 07:49 pm: |
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1125R - 74 (and counting) Uly - 0 Where's the Love? Actually, the excitement is cool! |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 10:23 pm: |
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I was wondering about the sudden upswing of annony posts myself. Is it the release of pressure and fear of saying too much and giving away the 1125r finally being lifted or what? Or maybe it is more free time now that the bike is in the final stages and revisions are basically over? Either way I'm glad to see the involvement from the factory. It's good to get the information from the horse's mouth rather than the horse's other end (internet hear-say) Thanks for all the hard work guys, and thanks for taking the time to answer our questions and comments. |
Anonymous
| Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:06 pm: |
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Just the release of excitement over what we've been working on so hard for so long. There now it's Uly - 1. |
Beachbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:31 pm: |
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LOL! A comedian too! Gotta love it! |
Anonymous
| Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:59 pm: |
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A point -- the significant updates to the Uly chassis and engine mean we haven't forgotten about it by any means. We're committed to carrying the air-cooled bikes forward; they have real advantages for street-fighters and adventurer tourers, and even pure sport bikes can benefit from the potentially light weight and simplicity of air cooling. |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:12 am: |
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How much weight do you figure can be trimmed from the venerable V-Twin by going to a much more compact configuration with a combined engine/transmission also with the plus of eliminating the dreaded primary chain drive in favor of gears? |
Maximum
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 03:09 am: |
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I love all the excitement of the new 1125R. Just like we saw improvements this year to the XB12 engine based upon things learned from the XBRR, I see this as a great thing for all future Buell products. Anonymous's are always welcome here in the Big, Bad & Dirty! |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 06:22 am: |
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Look . . .I got my heated grips. I'm happy.
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Crusty
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 07:02 am: |
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Hey Anonymous; when are you gonna build a Low Uly? (Terri wants to ride a Buell to Homecoming next year.) |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:08 am: |
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Anonymous, Somehow you need to figure out how to increase the ULY's range between fillups. I read Davevv's Alaska to Texas adventure on his brand new 07' ULY and more than once he worried about running out of fuel in the middle of no-wheres-ville. He ended up buying a 1 gallon gas can (probably polypropylene)at an Alaskan Walmart to extend his range and ease his mind. Surely Buell engineers can figure a way to enlarge the frame tank a min of a gallon. The 1125R holds 5.6 gallons which brings me to another point. You write in your above post, " bikes can benefit from the potentially light weight and simplicity of air cooling", yet the 1125R with water cooling has a dry weight of 375 lbs compared to the ULY's 425 lbs. Seems that your watercooled bike is pretty light compared to the aircooled bikes. As for simplicity, you simplified the 1125R compared to aircooled XB bikes by not having an external oil tank (no oil lines), and you went with coil over plug which the lower temps of watercooling allowed (I'm guessing anyways). Aircooled is ok but watercooled sure would allow for a smaller engine (less cc and weight) but with equal power and we could get 6 gears and the bigger fuel cell frame. |
Stevem123
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:13 am: |
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There are still yet more advantages to having an air-cooled bike. A friend of mine blew a head gasket on his big twin while enroute to a campout weekend. We pulled the sparkplug to prevent burning the gasket surfaces and he limped it in. He promptly began dissassembly at the campsite while we went for some new gaskets. He got back together that evening and we continued our adventure of drinking massive amounts of refreshments followed by more riding the rest of the weekend. You can't do that with a water-cooled engine..... Besides that I really like the torque at lower RPMs and the distinctive sound of our present engine. BC Steve |
Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:34 am: |
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"You can't do that with a water-cooled engine..... " Sure you can. Not a bike but I once drove a car from Seattle to southern California to deliver a bike to a friend, the car had a cracked head between the valves in one cylinder where the crack went into a water pocket, so I ran the car with the radiator cap loose so it wouldn't build up any water pressure. Worked just fine. If it has more than one cylinder you can pull a plug and limp home on almost anything, water cooled or not. |
Ponti1
| Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hey Anonymous; when are you gonna build a Low Uly? (Terri wants to ride a Buell to Homecoming next year.) XB12Xcg (Message edited by ponti1 on July 19, 2007) |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 03:04 am: |
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its already out there... XB9SX with the SCG seat on it, and uly front fender clips. All stock BUELL parts. 5-6 with a 29 inch inseam, Get on with the bendy and dirty! Pic on profile and video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG76ftSFOcg |
Crusty
| Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 06:59 am: |
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Terri rode a City X at Homecoming, and didn't like it. She did like the TT though, which surprised me. She loves my Uly, but has a hard time with it when stopped. She's riding a Moto Guzzi because Buell won't make the bike she wants. She wants hard bags and a comfortable seat and a lower seat height. She commutes 45 miles each way to work, and on weekends, we like to travel. I've seen a few people who would have bought Ulys walk away because of the height. I think Buell is missing out on a lot of sales. |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 10:28 pm: |
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The 1125R may weigh 375 dry but wet with fuel it's only 5-7 pounds lighter than an XB12R/S. Very impressive considering the extra weight of the coolant and let's not forget a whopping 5.6 gal of fuel. I think the engine that the Uly has is a better choice than the Helicon. It makes mucho power from damn near idle. I'd reckon the 1125R won't take off from a stop just by letting out the clutch (no throttle) like the XBs. Also it would suck to be out in the middle of no where and bust a coolant hose or puncture a radiator. The Helicon is in my opinion the perfect engine for a purely on asphalt street bike. Buell answered my prayers with the 1125R but If I was to buy an Uly I would absolutely demand it have the 45 degree air cooled lump. It just makes more sense to me. A low version would be cool though. Maybe do like on the TT. Have the same suspension travel down but reduce the up travel by an inch thus lowering seat height (and unfortunately ground clearance) an inch. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 02:51 pm: |
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And now for something completely different... What is the XB12T? Anony we want to know! |
Davevv
| Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 03:00 pm: |
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Since Electraglider mentioned my trip, I'll make a comment about the Uly's fuel capacity. While I wouldn't mind a little more range, I don't really feel it is a problem. All three incidents of low fuel in Alaska and Canada were not the Uly's fault. In each case, the station where I had planned to buy gas was out of business, and each time I managed to get to the next station without using the extra gallon. The farthest I had to go on reserve was 20 miles. The day I rode the Top of the World Highway, I covered 198 miles on 3.6 gallons. As far as I'm concerned the Uly has decent range, but when the stations are often 100 miles apart, the extra fuel is a wise precaution. You see lots of people on other bikes up there with extra gas cans too. |
Anonymous
| Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 06:13 pm: |
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Typo. No XB12T exists. |
Crusty
| Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 09:07 pm: |
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Anonymous; if that's true, then you're missing out on a lot of sales. |
Davo
| Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 10:09 pm: |
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The bike that I replaced my Uly with took 3.5 gal of fuel to go 207 miles. That is 59 mpg. The thing that impressed me was that I still had 2.6 gallons in the tank when I filled up. That is a range of 360 miles! Of course I had more vibration and a lot less torque and comfort. On the plus side the fan ran about ten minutes in five hours and I got there without missing a beat. I do miss the Uly though! |
M2nc
| Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 11:28 pm: |
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Has anyone with the an '06 & '07 Uly try the '08 heat deflectors? I am noticing that the fan is running less. I rode with Webe last weekend and I noticed that my fan did not come on all day while riding. It was in the mid-80°F and I was riding two up. Webe was solo and when we returned home from our 180 mile ride both our fans came on when we turned the bike off, but my fan shut off within a minute while his ran for several more minutes. I rode to work last Friday and when I turned the bike off at work, the fan did not come on. I thought the fan was not working because that is the first time I can remember the fan not running after the 11 mile ride in mid-60 temps. Riding home that day, the fan never came on. I took the long way home and after some 20 miles in high-80°F temperatures the fan did not come on until I got home and turn the bike off. Today I jumped on the bike and took off to see if I truly had a fan problem. I rode around the country side but the fan would only come on when I shut the bike off. Finally I rode to Greenville (The largest city in my neck of the woods) and rode for almost an hour in town with no fan except when I would turn off the bike. Finally after an hour in stop light traffic in low 80°F temps the fan came on and stayed on all the way home. Anyone else noticing the same? |
Miamiuly
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 06:30 pm: |
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M2nc- interesting info, keep us posted, may have to order some if it keeps the fan from working as much. That and maybe the RH scoop? Mike- I'm pretty sure steve was talking about changing a head gasket on the fly without dealing with the coolant mess. Or having coolant in the oil... |
Red_chili
| Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 09:28 pm: |
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I just put on the heat deflector (right side only, left side has only the Odie blanket) and noticed no difference in fan behavior. My leg was happier though, even with the Odie blanket my thigh toasted. Less so now. Wrapping the header should eliminate all thigh roasting, and the RSS should reduce the fan operation and rear head temps. |
Miamiuly
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:00 am: |
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I couldn't find the right side scoop at buell.com or Am sport bikes, did they stop making them? I thought that was a buell option part and also made in a carbon option. |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 08:18 am: |
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http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9160.html |
Miamiuly
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 02:36 pm: |
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Thanks froggy, not sure how I missed that. |
Red_chili
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 04:49 pm: |
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I am getting mine to match the left side, from Europe. |
Ka5ysy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 06:49 pm: |
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"Typo. No XB12T exists." yea... ok.... whatever ! That's your story and you're sticking to it ! Motorcycle version of the Aurora |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 08:33 pm: |
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The Men in Black will be showing up at your door to convince you that what you thought you knew was merely a hallucination caused by running off road near a swamp on a back dirty road. ;D |
Ka5ysy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 09:59 pm: |
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I have been neurolized . Huh??? Whats an XB??? |