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Mikef5000
| Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 08:16 am: |
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I'm looking for some pictures of these installed. Does the position of the brake/shifter levers change? Do they need readjusting afterwords? Could I install/uninstall these fairly quickly depending on the type of riding I'm going to be doing? |
Crashbuell
| Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 09:35 am: |
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I haven't done these, but if you're looking to swap back and forth, even if this is pretty straight-forward, you are still probably looking at 20min to a half hour by the time you get everything where you want it or where it's supposed to go. Like I say, not sure-just a guess. |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 05:40 pm: |
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Half an hour would be doable. |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 06:29 pm: |
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Here you go Mike, half an hour or less would be about right. The position of the brake lever is changed because it moves up along with the relocated foot peg. |
Bad_karma
| Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:38 pm: |
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lawrence I pick up a partial kit for my S3. It looks straight forward, what changes does the kit do to the brake linkage? Thanks Joe |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 08:42 am: |
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Joe, Would really like to help you out with an answer to that, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Could you be a little more specific? What do you mean by a "Partial Kit"? (Message edited by ragnagwar on June 16, 2007) |
Jimmy77
| Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 12:08 pm: |
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One of my future projects... |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 12:28 pm: |
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The kit in the picture in the original post shows 3 pieces. 2 per peg, and the third small piece. What's that third piece? |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 02:02 pm: |
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It connects your brake pedal to the rod end on the master cylinder assembly. If you need more info let me know and I'll try to get a picture to you. |
Jimmy77
| Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 09:37 pm: |
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Can you do this mod on a 97 M2? The peg risers on my bike are one solid piece welded to the frame... No space for bolt ons? |
Bad_karma
| Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 11:17 pm: |
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Lawrence I have the two pieces that you mount the foot peg on. But I don't have anything that will connect the brake lever to the master cylinder. Or maybe a relocation plate for the master cylinder. Joe P.S. Nice trick with the photo. (Message edited by bad_karma on June 16, 2007) |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 08:35 am: |
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"Jimmy77" I can't answer your question because I'm not familiar with the differences (if any) between a 97 and 00 frame. |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 08:41 am: |
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Here is a picture of the brake side installation.
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Ragnagwar
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 08:46 am: |
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"Bad Karma" (Joe) I think I may have a spare brake connector. Not positive, but if you want me to check let me know. |
Jimmy77
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 09:10 am: |
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I figured it out with that close up shot. They're the same. The new peg riser mounts over the top of the existing one I was speaking of. |
Kesslp
| Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 11:19 am: |
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Alright so we get the pegs out of the way, but I go through at least one shifter peg per year. Anyway to get that out of the way? |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 08:53 am: |
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That's what I was worried about! I was picturing being all leaned over, and the shifter scraping the ground and pushing up and crunching the tranny into the next gear (causing bad things to happen). |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 09:28 am: |
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Here are the ones I got from the e-bay billet guy (and a special guest machinist). On the right, I had to shorten the brake rod as far as it would go to keep the brake lever low enough. Glad I had a Dremel tool...
There isn't any more adjustment left to go lower, though. The shift rod for the boomerang shifter was too short with the peg risers installed. I had to adjust both rod-ends out as far as they would go to get the shifter high enough... it looked awkward. The talented engineer and machinist Aaomy made a short run of longer shafts and a lucky few of us got them. It requires a reversed threaded tap for one rod end... something so obscure, only he had one (thanks Aaron!). The longer shaft let me rotate the shift-shaft arm one notch forward for better leverage with the new shifter location (in my humble opinion...). Notice how the rod ends are fully screwed in with the shifter in the position I like it...
The peg risers help just enough to keep the peg dragging tolerable, but you still have to ride with your toes on the pegs... they could stand to be a bit further back, but the body work would get in the way. I had a little trouble getting the risers to stay fixed to the bike, but the e-bay billet guy sent me some revised parts and it worked like a charm. They haven't come loose and feel pretty solid after a couple years. The pegs are from the billet guy, too. |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 10:40 am: |
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"Dj" I'm really glad you posted that because it gave me a reality check on what I had posted. The Banke peg relocaters are NOT meant to be used with the STOCK SHIFT LINKAGE. I have the Banke shift linkage and just assumed (you know what that leads to!) we were all on the same page. After I read your post I realized the questions were probably related to using the relocaters with stock linkage! To all above who I may have misinformed and or confused, I apologize. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 11:09 am: |
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I think Mike knows that already - he's seen my relocators in person and even sat on my bike. I'm sure the wheels are already turning on what shifter he's getting. It's always nice to see the details of everyone's set-up, anyway. The peg relocators can be used with the older style boomerang shifters... which work well if you get the bronze bushings and keep an eye on the clearances. I like it cause it's cheap and I was able to shorten the peg location a little better for my my size 11 foot. The designer for the stock shifter must have had gigantic feet. |
Ragnagwar
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 02:31 pm: |
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You are correct in that the peg risers do indeed work with the Boomerang linkage. I was just concerned that I gave the impression that it would simply bolt up and be great. And even though they will bolt up, the linkage will most likely need some mods to accommodate the individual position needs(as you pointed out). In the case of the Banke linkage they offer two separate kits with different length shift arms. One is specifically made to be used with their peg risers. (Message edited by ragnagwar on June 18, 2007) |
Buellfart
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 10:36 pm: |
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Yeah,I just found that out the hard way-my banke m2 shift arm is too short-designed for stock footpeg mounting-also using billet guys footpeg risers,which are great as well as inexpensive(though they don`t polish up as well as the Banke stuff).I decided to make a flat toe peg for that extra inch or so rearward,so far so good-this way I can go back to stock foot pegs if I want-also have long,barrel nut to re-use cut off threads of rear brake rod.Haven`t tried that one yet,though. |
Gmc310
| Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 10:41 pm: |
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Is that tbolt with the billet pegs? hiow do you like the pegs ? I have benn looking for a set for my 2000 bolt ,Gary |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 08:25 am: |
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Does the billet guy still sell these parts? If I have to install new shifter parts, then we're getting further and further away from being able to swap this stuff off or on in an afternoon. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 08:34 am: |
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Unless you get the older style shifter, it'll be expensive to do, but it shouldn't be that hard to change out in an afternoon. I run them all the time - it's not so bad (but I don't do mega-distances like you do). I have the Low seat on my standard M2, so your seating position wouldn't be as severe as mine. The risers don't raise the pegs by much... you may not even notice it. |