| Author | Message | ||
     Buelltours |
I just surfed on ebay and looked at a 99 Buell X1. In the description it says "More importantly, on the 2000 and newer X1's, Buell/HD started playing with the crank/flywheel weights and had some durability/increased vibration issues. Don't take my word for it-check the Buell forums." I was always under the impression to avoid 99 tubers for various reliability issues, especially with the FI bikes. Now I am a little confused....and happy because I have a 99 X1 also. Anybody any comment? Cheers! Cornel | ||
| Sleez |
they changed the crank assy somewhere along the line, maybe 99, i bought a new crank assy to put in my 97 when i get the motor finished...but the case needs machining to fit it. i don't remember the details right now, i think it is a bit lighter. anyone with details...??? | ||
| Oldog |
IIRC the Crank is lighter its referred to a "low inertia crankshaft assembly" Tours my sled has 24400 miles, the lump is heavy but sturdy. The recommended changesare ,bronze oil pump drive gear, remove the spring plate and replace with 2 steels & fiber. the rest is PM The reliablilty / horror stories relate to issues with the 99 fi systems they were corrected late 99~ early 00 and the usual dealer issues, as far as I know. If you are doing breathing improvements (recomended for the X1) get the race box and you are GTG. BTW the air box on the X1 is problematic and allows trash into the "clean area" if you do not maintain it frequently off it. | ||
| Robr |
The 2000+ flywheel was blamed by Buell for a different frequency vibration that caused the shocks to break, hence the great shock recall. All those bikes should have been recalled and repaired by now. Although putting a 2000+ crank into a '99 could possibly lead to a shock absorber failure since '99's were not part of the shock recall and never received the upgraded shock. Note: the '99's were recalled to have there ECM's reflashed to address the FI hiccups. | ||
| 1313 |
The 2000+ flywheel was blamed by Buell for a different frequency vibration that caused the shocks to break, hence the great shock recall. That's an accurate statement, 1313  | ||
| Djkaplan |
Never heard that before. Interesting... | ||
| Buelltours |
Thanks for this information. I also never realized this. So then the flywheel design remained for 2000-2002 unchanged because the new reinforced Showa shock could handle it. And I guess the shock recall on 95-98 models had nothing to do with vibrations? I guess the 99 vintage wasn't that bad after all.... BTW I fixed the FI hiccups with the Race ECM. | ||
| Spiderman |
since '99's were not part of the shock recall FALSE!! All tube frame Buell's from 1995 to 2000 had a shock recall. The WP and the first Gen Showa were all "Prone to failure" The difference in flywheels is the 99 can be re-built IE the crank pin can be removed the 2000 and newer can't the crank pin is pressed in... (Message edited by spiderman on May 31, 2007) | ||
| Djkaplan |
Doesn't Cycle Rama have the capability to rebuild 2000+ cranks? Pammy? | ||
| Spiderman |
OK let me re-phrase. They weren't designed to be rebuilt... At least by mortals  | ||
| Tripp |
my 99 flywheel has been rebuilt using s&s cranks, 6k since, no problems, yeay! | ||
| Robr |
Spiderman, now that you mention it, I seem to recall (no pun intended), '99 Cyclones being recalled for shocks, I however have owned a '99 X1 since it was new and I assure you it has never been recalled for it's shock.  (Message edited by Robr on June 01, 2007) | ||
| Robr |
Here it is, no '99 X1s, only M2s... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/bulletins/Sh ockRecall99-00.pdf} | ||
| Spiderman |
Than you bought it in 2000 with the shock already done or someone lied to you. Can you post a pic of your shock? | ||
| Spiderman |
Do you have the SRP, that would be a fix for the faulty shock... | ||
| Robr |
I took delivery of my X1 on November 13, 2000 (don't ask how I remember that one), the service bulletin is dated December 4, 2000. Quoted from the bulletin, "This campaign involves all 1999 M2 Cyclone and all 2000 X1 Lightning, M2 Cyclone, S3 Thunderbolt and S3T Thunderbolt Buell motorcycles manufactured between January 5, 1998 and May 31, 2000." At the time I was quite concerned and after not receiving a letter from Buell even though my bike had not been listed I wanted confirmation and I wanted to know why. I visited my dealer who checked the computer with my vehicle ID, he confirmed no recall for my bike. Later on this site it was confirmed that "harmonic resonances" were different between the '99 flywheel and the 2000 flywheel which I understand had been lightened. Anyway 17,500 miles on that shock and it's still fine. Now it will start leaking because I talked about it!  | ||
| Robr |
Not to  but here was one of the threads from 2000, html,http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/message s/3842/10419,html | ||
| Sportsman |
I have a 99 X1 since new, got it in July 99. Has had recall stuff done but never the shock. I have found it to be a great bike that's why I still have it. The 99's got a bad rap early on because nobody knew how to deal with TPS resets then and as pipes and air cleaners came out aftermarket it would throw off the OE ECM. That all was solved with a race ECM but they weren't available early on. Buelltours, you got a great classic ride, just go have fun. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Just another data-point: I got my 2000 the end of February of 2001. My first shock leaked before 3000 miles! They replaced it under warranty/recall. That original one looked like a cone on one side. The replacement lasted about 50,000. That is the more cylindrical version. With all of the work that my bike had done to it in the first year, I doubt that Buell made any money off of me. | ||
| Tunes |
I bought my S3 new; Aug., '99 and have received all sorts of recalls, but never for the rear shock absorber. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Same as Tunes. Joe | ||
| Ducxl |
}HUH,i always wondered why i never got a recall notice on my '99 X1.And i've asked fellow Buellers to look at mine to verify if it WAS ONE.With similar models around mine affected i was baffled.Good news to be sure,and i rest assured finally knowing mine is good I bought mine new in February of '99 (Message edited by Ducxl on June 17, 2007) (Message edited by Ducxl on June 17, 2007) (Message edited by Ducxl on June 17, 2007) | ||
| Tunes |
After extensive conversations with '99 and later Tube Frame owners, all I could gather is the cone shaped shocks were replaced. For the life of me, I can't visually tell if my rear shock is good or bad, ie. recalled or good. Functionally, it works as advertised. I believe Buell has a database with serial numbers for frames and piece parts which gives them the ability to identify individual owners/bikes and their defective shocks. I recently received a recall on the throttle cable? Some clip, retainer or something. I'll get it done... I just haven't gotten to it. As far as the engine... my '99 S3, once up to rev, is very smooth indeed. Front and rear shock absorbers work as designed. I'm also very easy on my bikes, so I get alot of longevity outa them. Ya, when I first got my '99, it ran like crap. After I performed the break-in, I installed the Race Kit... but the local dealer had not been trained to tune EFI bikes and struggled to tune it properly. I brought the bike to the nearest dealer who HAD received the training. The tune of the bike was so different from the previous tune (ie bad) that it took awhile to get used to the bike all over again. Overall the bike has been very good to me. 23K+ miles and counting. |
