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Ray_r
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that a right side air scoop I see?

In comparing the XB12Ss with the STT, it looks like the gear ratios are the same, but the primary drive ratio on the STT looks to be lower.....ie...lower range, higher number...34 vs 38.

(Message edited by Ray_R on November 15, 2006)
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Brad1445
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocketman,

You articulated that well. I agree. Many here act as if you were speaking about Jesus if you say anything less than praise of Buell but the rules of business are easy. Win more time than you lose.

I agree this bike will get eaten alive by the press for its wannabe hints. I do like your idea of branding as a "dirtfighter" that make sense and no side by side comparisons with bikes that were designed from the ground up for that purpose.

Last night I was thinking Buell needed to pull that bike off its site ASAP to avoid the negative press, but after your post all they really need to do is refine the name and description to be more accurate.
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Red_chili
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys I think you're looking at this wrong. And it's not your fault either, it's the marketing arm of Buell.

It has nothing to do with the Uly (except the beak). It is a 1200cc CityX. I bet Ulendo is breaking out his wallet as I type.

If you want rearsets on your uly, here ya go... ; ) Or if you want fork protectors without the fender, here ya go.

Now here's a parts bin special I'd like to see, going the other way: a 900cc Uly-like beast with wire wheels, even lighter weight, and more true dualsport accomodations. I wouldn't even mind a 17 front just to frustrate the naysayers. You can contract with Pirelli for more adequate MT-60 sizing and be a hero to boot.

Yo Anony, hint-hint!
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Brad1445
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally, I like the concept of the new TT. I just look at is as the XB12 version of the CityX with additional features.

From my perspective, I have always been challenging HD and Buell to come up with a street tracker and a supermoto based on the XB1200 engine. Now, both of them have put me into a bind concerning which bike to buy.

Assuming both will have relatively similar performance levels, I am still going for the XR1200 compliments of more relaxed seat to handlebar ergo's and the fact that I like to see more engine. However, Buell's frame simply won't allow that.

Still, with the Uly ergo's on the TT, I just might have a problem with a buying decision come spring.
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that a right side air scoop I see

That IS a right side air scoop on this new bike.

So, remember when I GOT HAMMERED by guys here (esp. Blake) for suggesting that Buell blew it by NOT including this scoop on its XBs.

What we got back was, "hey, the factory guys know best!"

Well, I guess they DO eventually!

Now, here is a prediction, Blake will be here with a "yeah but!" in a millisecond, pointing out that just because this is a scoop on THIS bike, etc, etc.

Its just a prediction, but I would put money on it!
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that right side air scoop is the same as all the XBs have had since the 03 model year.
What are you looking at?
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Lovehamr
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't see a right side air scoop. What gives?

Steve
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you go on the website, the orange bike in the gallery has a right side scoop on it. Several others do NOT.

Weird, no?
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Matty
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Dirtfighter"
Lol!
GENIUS!!!


Although I hope it doesn't get us into hot water with the other "dirtfighter"...


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Red_chili
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see no orange bike with a RSS... just the small one like my Uly.
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My mistake, it is on the white bike.

Try this link.

http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes/lightning/xb12stt /gallery.asp#
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is no air scoop on any of those bikes.
Well, not one any different than what has been on them all.
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



See?
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually there IS a scoop in the pick where the guy is laying over the bike. Check out the link I sent, not the pic your posted.

It is NOT consistent in the gallery photos.

If I new how to post that photo here I would.
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go to the link above and then to the last picture on the bottom of the gallery shots.

The guy is leaning into a left turn and his bike has a scoop on it, no doubt.
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Red_chili
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Uly has the same 'scoop'. Look again.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes,
I see that some air just might get between that plastic and the fins. Behold the Flat-scoop.
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Cash
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





sorry but I don't think there is an air scoop there,and if there is its the best hidden scoop out there.
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this one?


That is EXACTLY the same as the scoops on every new and used XB on my sales floor.
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now that I look at it again, I see your point. I haven't had my stock "scoop" on for several years so I had remembered it as much smaller.

Sorry, my mistake!

PS-They SHOULD add one though!
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

see, we didn't even need Blake to clear that up for us
You owe me $1.00
you said, you'd put money on it.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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You gotta be laughing at yourself now Richard. Hang in there buddy; you'll get one over on me one of these days. ;) LOL
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

see, we didn't even need Blake to clear that up for us
You owe me $1.00
you said, you'd put money on it.


Fair enough, want me to donate it to charity in your name!

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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You gotta be laughing at yourself now Richard. Hang in there buddy; you'll get one over on me one of these days.

I am laughing at myself, but hey, mistakes happen.

As far as "getting one over on you," that is the least of my worries my friend.
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have yourself a big glass of Kool Aid on me!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look closely at that second picture... The timing cover is gone! Guess the rivits are not new for 2007 : ) Or the new covers did not get back from the supplier in time for the photoshoot : ) : )

And does that wire stick out like that on my 05 9sx? I don't recall seeing it, but maybe it's there.
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it's there
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep,

No. It's just yours. I think you need to take it back for warranty work. That's just not safe!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

: )

Hey, and besides the missing timing plate cover, is that a black anodized idler pulley?
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