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Nutsosane
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, Got $200 Bucks? If you own an XB 12 and want to add volume, and boost without losing the stock exhaust valve, Kevin is developing a product for you. Prototype #1 has just finished testing and #2 is undergoing tests now.
Looking at the newly delivered prototype finds the "ECONO" shorter than stock and sporting twin chrome outlets. The pipe is said to be 4 pounds lighter and mounts using the exact points as the stocker(relax some people don't know Kevin reworks stock pipes). In my case I have a 2004 XB12 that will be in warranty until October of 2006 so I'm not jumping to tear into voided warranty territory. I've got the stock ECM, Airbox, Exhaust valve, snorkel,and air cleaner: completely stock bike.
Installation is simple, took me 2hrs the first time. Next try turned into 45 minutes, and last time it took longer to mount the chin fairing than install the ECONO. When I wheeled that thing out of the basement in through the garage and out onto the driveway, I thought I was prepared. I've heard audio clips of ALL the pipes on the BADWEB, but was not prepared for the first hand experience. I suggest having someone nearby with a camera to catch your reaction. All I had was the dog but damned if he wasn't barking as he ran for cover. I straight away e-mailed Kevin with the quote. "That summitch is loud; I like it!" Is it as loud as the force? Probably not. Does the force cost $200? Definitely not. This thing is called the "ECONO DRUMMER" for a reason. All you need is the pipe.
Road tests found the pipe not to drag even when I got the boot to scrape (Lovin Bent Mountain), and noticeably more attention at the stoplights. Is it too loud? Not unless it's 4:00 a.m. and the neighbors are already pissed about that frequent burnout in the street thing. I found the exhaust note pleasing and actually deafened some of the annoying engine noises. I just enjoyed riding hearing something other than engine noise. I thought the stock pipe had a nice sound when idling, and the "ECONO" has those same characteristics just tripled and continuing throughout the rev range. Folks these were my impressions BEFORE the dyno runs, and after another 80 mile long way home I can't say they have changed.
More to follow...NUTS
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuts,
Glad your having fun with your testing,how does this pipe(muffler) compare in sound to the reg.Drummer(like mine).Does it have the deep tone of the reg.Drummer or more off a harsh tone like a Force?.....Charlie (still stuck in SC and missing my bike)
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kevin had Roanoke Valley HD dyne his Econo Drummer. Here are the results.

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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about a picture of this HIGH TECH. ITEM ???

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Nutsosane
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jersey for the upload. Any help with posting a picture would be appreciated. I have several on file. NUTS
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuts, I got sorry, humorless, neighbors too! Those early AM burnouts seems to put them over the edge (and mine are the in-laws :-) .)

Hey Charlie, good to see you posting up.

G2
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Nutsosane
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Charlie, it sounds more like your Cyclone than your Firebolt. It's loud but at $200 with no other mods it isn't too loud. Kevin has another prototype being tested now so we'll see what that comes up with. The curve doesn't look too bad, it gave a little boost right @ 3500. Took the bike for a 422 mile trip on Saturday and yanked a wheelie shifting from 1st into 2nd on highway 29. I heard a 1200 sportster go by with straight pipes slash cut towards me and that bike was louder. Maybe because the sound was concentrated in the same direction. We've got a ride planned for Sunday the 11th, sure hope to see you there. Route 311 up Potts mountain and back around some other way. NUTS
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Big Daddy,
Gotta race on Sept.17, midcarolinaspeedway.com
Come check us out. Be good to see you again. Location just south of Columbia SC(check out web site for directions).......Charlie
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuts,
Coming in this weekend, so should be able to make it. Sounds like a good ride.........Charlie
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlie, right now I'm scheduled on that date -- trying to change that. I'd like to see that race.
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Kds1
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Econo Drummer....





Econo Drummer
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Vaxb
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is the "econo" louder than the buell race muffler?
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Nutsosane
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes just had an impromptu meeting with a race kitted xb9. I believe the "econo was just louder. Hey luvthemtorts do you agree?NUTS
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Luvthemtorts
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is most definately louder (in a good way)! I can ride my kitted XB9R comfortably without the ear plugs but I think they may become part of my riding gear should I choose to replace my current muffler with the Drummer.

Nutsosane,
I took your advice and rode home keeping the RPMs' at or slightly above 3000. I think you were right about that. The transmission doesn't seem to jerk as much.
It was a pleasure meeting you and look forward to introducing you to Windy Gap in the near future.
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Nutsosane
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jackie, you guys should of followed us. what a great ride today. I was trying to keep up with Charlie on 43 but that is near impossible, he's just smooth. My riding mantra is "fast and loose baby" hey let's start a thread on the storm fronts page so we all can check in on weekly rides, mods and other stuff. I'll start it named "Roanoke Valley Fast and Loose" Nuts
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Luvthemtorts
Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Jason,
I gave strong thought to following you guys when the group split but to be honest my arse was about to fall off. I have GOT to get one of those deluxe seats!
I'm with ya on starting a page so we can all keep up on whats going on locally (the loose part I can probably live up to but have to work on the fast part LOL!).
By the way drop me an email and I'll shoot you my number should you want to hook up for a shorter ride one evening this week.
John3-16@cox.net
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Vaxb
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any info on when the econo will be ready to ship?
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Kds1
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vaxb,
Send your pipe and I'll be glad to get you going...tell me before you send it out and I'll have one ready for ya....

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Xbdave9s
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any plans on an econo-drummer for the 9's?
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Kds1
Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know any other way to do the 9 except the way it is now with the regular Drummer....If it had the valve and flat torque curve to start with then yes, but it doesn't....SORRY...

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Kmfw160
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has there been any change on the econo? I have a K&N filter, stock ecm and cut box and wonder what I could look forward to with that pipe.

thanks in advance for any info
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