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Firstbuell
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:09 pm: |
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that belt IS usable on the ol tubers, I believe. Not factory authorized, but it does fit - right guys? |
1313
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:15 pm: |
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Oldog, Last week Carlos and I spent a handful of hours replacing his 'redneck' (i.e. missing teeth) belt with the new for '06 belt. It fits, but the only question for a tuber is exactly how long it will last. I know there have been others that have done this as well. In fact, I'm almost looking forward to the next time I have to replace a belt on the S2 as I want to give the new belt a try. Of course on an S2 (or an X1 with the removable sideplate) the belt replacement is a LOT easier and less time consuming to do. 1313 |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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I posted about 25 or so questions, got a few answered. Glad to hear the 11 lb limit doesn't apply to the triple tail in the backrest position. I think it was darn cool. Oldog, It (not the Uly belt, but the new 06 XB-R and XB-S belt) is usable on the tube frame models. Buell won't go on record as saying so because they haven't fully tested it that way (right answer for them), but we have several customers are already running the new belt on tubers "successfully". What does "successfully" mean? Well, no failures have been reported yet, and there are no fitment issue. The front pulley is the same 27 tooth pulley as on the old tube frame Buells. I'm careful to point out that using it is an "experimental" thing. But so far, I'd rate it as a successful experiment that isn't finished yet. I would put one on my own tuber in a heartbeat. YMMV. Al |
1313
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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BTW, In case you forgot, Carlos rides an M2 (when he is not on his flying suitcase Nighthawk). 1313 |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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yes the vrod thing was too funny! what about Blakes the correct answer to Erik |
Daves
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:17 pm: |
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Been known to happen |
Buellistic
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:18 pm: |
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Why did the committee name the XB12X after a GREEK HERO that had a mid-life crisis ??? |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:22 pm: |
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thanks Al, & Brankin the super belt is going on the sled when the time comes, I wonder about the gps too I asked if that was some kind of hand held, I have a terrible time with glasses( i need them to read ) a clamp arrangement if used on the uly may be a great refit Carlos is one awesom rider! he can definately fly the hawk |
T9r
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:34 pm: |
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before closing down my Java window I did a Print Screen, saving the whole Q&A in a Doc format. IT's one large file with photos. If anyone wants it I'll work on breaking it up and making it smaller for posting someplace. |
Daves
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:36 pm: |
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I can just see Erik right now, loading ice cream into the saddlebags of a Uly! |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:40 pm: |
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but now the decisive question, did he have to take the vrod parts out first and what flavour? |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:47 pm: |
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Erik has been on record saying the vrod engine is too large and too heavy, emissions equipment would also add weight. In the end he said (I believe) the there was no real advantage by the time you add up all the negatives. or words to that effect. My memory isn't what it once was. Feel free to correct me if you know the proper answer and I got it wrong |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 12:03 am: |
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Now I want ice cream too! |
1313
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 12:15 am: |
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Buellistic, The Ulysses is the first Buell to carry its development name into production. Fortunately the rest haven't. Otherwise all the Blast's would be Thor's and the XB9R's would be Aries's. 1313 |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 12:21 am: |
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Unfortunately, I missed the first ten minutes or so due to a beligerent computer, darn it! But for those who missed the whole thing, here's what I was able to enjoy. Great stuff! First, the distinguished speakers... Erik Buell Chairman and Chief Technical Officer Erik Buell is Chief Technical Officer and Chairman of Buell Motorcycle Company. As Chairman and Chief Technical Officer, Erik is responsible for the long-term strategic vision for the company as well as all technical issues ranging from current product engineering support through future product design. After earning a degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Pittsburgh in 1979, he began his career with Harley-Davidson Inc. as a Junior Test Engineer. In 1983 he left Harley to found his own company and build his own motorcycles. The rest is history. If you ask him what his favorite motorcycle is, he'll say it's the one he's working on right now that he can't tell you about. During his time away from work, Erik enjoys spending family time with his wife Tish and their six children. Aside from a burning passion for motorcycles and all manner of go-fast toys, Erik loves playing his collection of guitars and performs semi-regularly with his rock and blues band, The Thunderbolts. Dan Hurda Lead Powertrain Engineer For the past eight years Dan Hurda has worked for Buell Motorcycle Company. As Lead Powertrain Engineer, Dan and his department are responsible for integrating the powertrain to the chassis. This process includes developing the engine management system (EFI), the intake and exhaust development and thermal management for the engine and chassis. Dan has been riding dirt bikes since he was five and learned how to ride a motorcycle before he learned how to ride a bicycle. Dan was out on the street with a motorcycle as soon as he was old enough, and admits probably even before that. Dan hasn't ever stopped riding. On his days off he finds time to race and ride motorcycles. He also finds adventure at the indoor paintball field he owns where he still finds time to play every now and then. With a degree in Astronautical Engineering from MIT, Dan can truly be called a rocket scientist. Jon Bunne Test Engineer Manager Before landing his "dream job" with Buell Motorcycle Company eight and half years ago, Jon always told his wife, "Buell is the one place I would work for free." Now as Test Engineer Manager Jon's enthusiasm for riding and wrenching continues after 30 years of riding motorcycles. At Buell, Jon is involved with the development process from the idea all the way to production. Jon and his team "police the bikes" before they go to production because the job requires them to plan testing on components and full vehicles. Jon feels he has the perfect job because he gets paid (his wife wouldn't let him work for free) to break things before a given part or motorcycle goes into production so that Buell owners will have a reliable and durable motorcycle. Before working at Buell Motorcycle Company, Jon attended the University of Wisconsin-Stout to study Product Development and Engineering. Of course he continues to ride motorcycles and his kids like riding motorcycles too. Jon still enjoys wrenching away at cars and working on home improvements. He still enjoys working on bikes once in a while away from the office, but Jon believes riding is always more fun. Jon has been known to ride his personal XB9R to the racetrack, remove the mirrors and lights, add number plates and go racing. Then at the end of the day, put all the street parts back on and ride home, trophies tucked into his backpack. Tony Stefanelli Director XB Platform Tony Stefanelli joined Buell Motorcycle Company seven years ago as Lead Design Engineer on the Buell Blast. Since then, he has taken the role as Director XB Platform, where he's responsible for the product development of the XB family of motorcycles. He manages the design process and helps invent cool components for the XB family. Tony is actively involved in reviewing the test process, paying attention to rider feedback, researching suppliers who may have innovative technology to share and finding faster and more efficient methods for producing new products. Tony has been riding motorcycles for over 28 years, taking his bikes on off-road adventures, participating in off-road racing and all-around street riding. One of Tony's favorite riding memories was when he was attending a press launch in the south of France. Tony soared over the crest of a hill in a 100 MPH wheelie. He says he'll never forget that small town where he could see the Mediterranean on his right and a lady standing on the curb to the left, smiling and waving at him as he passed through on one wheel. Even today, Tony stays on the fast track by riding dirt bikes, driving sport cars and swimming and skiing with his son. Tony has turned his house into a home by building all of his own furniture and constantly being involved in home improvements. John Fox Lead Design Engineer John Fox is Lead Design Engineer and has been working for Buell Motorcycle Company for the past eight years. John's first position with Buell was improving the quality and reducing the warranty on the vehicles in production. As Lead Design Engineer, John oversees motorcycle development, from the concept stage all the way through the production stage. John works with other design engineers to plan and develop the system and component designs for the new vehicles. He works frequently with the assembly personnel to build prototype bikes and also interacts with the analysis and test departments to develop, analyze and test each component of a Buell motorcycle. One of John's passions away from work is roadracing his Buell Firebolt XB12R in the Championship Cup Series. He's spent the past year working on his bike and hopes to drop a couple seconds per lap at his home track of Blackhawk Farms Raceway this season. One of the greatest thrills he's experienced when racing was winning his first amateur race. Abraham Askenazi Director of Analysis, Test and Engineering Process Ten years ago, after completing his Masters Thesis at UC Berkeley on the Dynamics of Single-Track Vehicles, Abe sent out a single job application. Erik Buell kindly responded with an offer that allowed Abe to become Buell Motorcycle Company's first full-time Analysis Engineer. And so began a wonderful ride that has led Abe to his current position: he directs the Analysis and Test departments and is also responsible for the continued advancement of the company's Engineering Processes. Abe plays a key role in guiding and supporting future product development, as well as ensuring the prompt resolution of current production issues. Abe grew up in Mexico City and is now married and has a two-year-old son. He's an experienced motorcycle rider and currently owns a 1995 Buell S2 Thunderbolt that he rides as much as possible. Abe hopes to acquire a Ulysses soon and is planning a motorcycle trip to Alaska with other Buell employees. Abe also spends time wrenching on motorcycles and cars, canoeing, kayaking, bicycling, and working on home improvement projects.
And the actual dialogue... Really great stuff! Thanks Erik, Dan, Jon, Tony, John, and Abe! And Tish too! Hope the ice cream was worth the wait! (Message edited by blake on August 26, 2005) |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 12:31 am: |
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LOL! Hadn't noticed Dan's answer to the "Do you recommend synthetic oil?" question. Nice non-answer there Dan. The man is obviously missing his calling as a politician. |
Drfuyutsuki
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 12:38 am: |
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T9r, Send the Doc to DRfuyutsuki@earthlink.net it should allow 10 mb's to be recieved, and I'll post it out on my homepage (on my profile) for all to see. |
Jon
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:24 am: |
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Wow. Awesome. I gotta tell you.. I am so impressed with Erik and company's dedication to their customers. I can't say enough good. I'm very pleased to be a part of this community. We are truly more and more developing a very intimate relationship with Buell and his people. ENjoy it folks, nobody else has such a connection. |
Drfuyutsuki
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 01:26 am: |
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It is really great to know these guys have a great sense of humour and love for the bikes they build. |
Rex
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 02:25 am: |
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very nice. nice to have a company, motorcycle or other, do a chat like this with enthusiasts. Kind of cool for buell to do this. REX |
Whodom
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 06:29 am: |
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Unfortunately, I missed the first ten minutes or so due to a beligerent computer, darn it! Oh man! That means you missed the discussion about the upcoming 2007 XB13.5RRXT limited edition fully faired sport racing touring moto cruiser! |
Tripper
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 08:23 am: |
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A really cool url was setup for the chat that did not get referenced in the conversation. Check this out. ULYSSES DETAILS Blake, Think Buell would mind if we archived this info here? |
Mike748
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 08:55 am: |
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That was pretty cool of them. I have a few more screen shots on my home laptop. I'll post up later. |
CJXB
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 09:29 am: |
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Cool posting the chat for those of us who didn't participate good reading, thanks Blake !! CJ |
Broodwich
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 11:33 am: |
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Tripper, thanks for that link. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 03:18 pm: |
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Trip, I dunno. Would hate to lose it though. Have you saved it to your HD? |
Spike
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 03:58 pm: |
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Tripper- Great link!! It would be great if Buell would offer up more of that type of information about the other Buell models. |
Tripper
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 04:21 pm: |
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Blake; have now saved all pages on my local disk. |
Midknyte
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 04:29 pm: |
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A really cool url was setup for the chat that did not get referenced in the conversation I want the link to that development video someone talked about where there were shooting slag into the new Uly belt drive. |
Whodom
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 04:50 pm: |
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I noticed the post last night about the Uly belt video too (someone said they had seen it). The video was mentioned in the Cycle World article. Buell would reassure a lot of prospective buyers about the belt drive if they'd make that video available. Of course, the lawyers have probably told them that they'll be liable if some moron watches the video, tries to do the test himself, and impregnates a few steel slugs in his forehead as a result.... |
Mike748
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 05:08 pm: |
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Here's another screenshot from last night
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Steve_a
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 05:17 pm: |
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I've seen the video. It's impressive to see the jerk in the system with the old belt when a steel slug was injested. There appeared to be substantial elastic bending of the swingarm or pivot shaft, which tells you something about the loads involved. On the old belt, a single slug could sometimes do belt damage. In this slow-motion video, the new belt seems to just flow around a slug as it passes between the belt and the front sprocket, with much less jerk. It's slightly stronger than the old belt as well, according to Buell's numbers. So maybe it's stronger but less stiff, or at least less stiff in local bending. In any case, the new belt would eat multiple steel slugs with minimal damage. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 08:46 pm: |
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Steve, Who you calling a "jerk", Dan? Whodom, Darnitagain! I'm always missing out on that kind of cool info. Mike748, Pretty sure that dialogue is included in one of the 24 panels I posted above, see the 14 or 15th one down from the top. Good question BTW. |
Dave
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 09:07 pm: |
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The chat transcript is available at the Buell site. http://buell.com/en_us/home.asp DAve |
Blake
| Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 04:17 am: |
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I don't see it. Can you provide a direct link? |
Blake
| Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 06:28 am: |
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Found it! |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 10:40 am: |
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Darn. Nothing concerning the break-in limitations here. Next time. |
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