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Buell2001b
| Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:52 pm: |
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Can anyone please tell me which race to watch for the Buells in Daytona in SpeedTV. Mike Cicotto and Michael Barnes! Thanks |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 12:39 am: |
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The Daytona 200, aka the Formula Xtreme race on Saturday. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 08:49 am: |
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Does anyone know what time they air it? And which Buell riders are still intact enough to ride it? |
Kenb
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 09:18 am: |
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as per the ama website; MARCH 12, 2005 - DAYTONA INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY, DAYTONA BEACH, FL LOCKHART PHILLIPS USA FORMULA XTREME ENTRIES (72 pre-entries) No. Rider name Hometown Bike 7 TY HOWARD WEATHERFORD, TX Yamaha YZFR6 8 CHRIS PERIS CALGARY, AB Yamaha YZFR6 9 ERIC ERLING HAUGO SIOUX FALLS, SD Suzuki GSXR600 12 BEN ATTARD MURRIETA, CA Kawasaki ZX600 14 SHAWN M HIGBEE BIG BEND, WI Buell XB12R 17 MIGUEL DUHAMEL REPENTIGNY, QC Honda CBR600RR 18 CHRIS ULRICH LAKE ELSINORE, CA Suzuki GSXR600 21 PASCAL PICOTTE REPENTIGNY, QC Yamaha YZFR6 22 TOMMY HAYDEN OWENSBORO, KY Kawasaki ZX600 23 ALEX GOBERT MURRIETA, CA Honda CBR600 24 TIM KNUTSON EL CAJON, CA Yamaha YZFR6 27 HEATH A SMALL WALLER, TX Yamaha YZFR6 30 DEREK D KEYES JACKSONVILLE, FL Suzuki GSXR 600 34 MICHAEL F BARNES BOCA RATON, FL Suzuki GSXR600 37 NATHAN HESTER PRIEST RIVER, ID Yamaha YZFR6 38 TAYLOR C KNAPP LAPEER, MI Yamaha R6 47 CHRIS CAYLOR MARIETTA, GA Suzuki GSXR600 50 GIOVANNI ROJAS DULUTH, GA Suzuki GSXR600 57 OLIVER JERVIS VICTORIA, BC Kawasaki ZX6RR 60 ADAM VELLA CHELMSFORD, MA Suzuki GSXR600 64 JEREMIAH J JOHNSON ORANGE, CA Suzuki GSXR600 66 BENJAMIN WALTERS COLONIAL HEIGHTS, VA Triumph Daytona 600 69 DANNY C ESLICK BROKEN ARROW, OK Suzuki GSXR600 83 LANCE YEAGER SAINT THOMAS, PA Kawasaki ZX6RR 89 DAFAN ZHANG UPPER DARBY, PA Yamaha YZFR6 95 ROGER LEE HAYDEN OWENSBORO, KY Kawasaki ZX600 98 JAKE P ZEMKE PASO ROBLES, CA Honda CBR600RR 112 RICKY ORLANDO ERIE, CO Kawasaki ZX6RR 116 ROGER BELL LEXINGTON, KY Suzuki GSXR600 117 JOSEF J BRENNER ELKRIDGE, MD Honda CBR600RR 125 MARCO MARTINEZ FORT LAUDERDALE, FL Ducati 748 130 R TODD KEESEE PALM BAY, FL Yamaha YZFR6 132 JESSE A JANISCH HARTFORD, WI Suzuki GSXR600 140 MATT DRUCKER MOLINE, IL Suzuki GSXR600 142 RUSS W INTRAVARTOLO PALATINE, IL Kawasaki 600 145 CHAD A SIMONS ORMOND BEACH, FL Yamaha YZFR6 152 ROBERT JENSEN CHAFFEE, ND Yamaha YZFR6 154 ALAN SCHMIDT CLEARWATER, BC Yamaha YZFR6 161 SCOTT JENSEN PHOENIX, AZ Suzuki GSXR600 163 JASON MOSS GREENSBORO, NC Yamaha YZFR6 170 JUSTIN L FILICE MODESTO, CA Honda CBR600 175 PAOLO MARIANO RESEDA, CA Suzuki GSXR600 180 MARK MCCORMICK WINTER SPRINGS, FL Yamaha YZFR6 237 JOHN A ASHMEAD PONCE INLET, FL Kawasaki ZX6RR 269 JOHNNY ROCK PAGE PHOENIX, AZ Yamaha YZFR6 284 ANTHONY W FANIA FRENCHTOWN, NJ Yamaha YZFR6 285 JUSTIN R MEYER LOUISVILLE, CO Yamaha YZFR6 292 KEITH D MARSHALL ALPHARETTA, GA 305 DECLAN SWANTON CO. CORK, Yamaha YZFR6 306 AKIHARU SHIGENO TOKYO, Honda CBR600RR 308 DARIO MARCHETTI Ducati 749R 310 JEFFREY W PURK DES MOINES, IA Yamaha YZFR6 339 BRIAN HALL FOX LAKE, IL Kawasaki ZX6RR 449 CRAIG MONTGOMERY ADDISON, TX Yamaha YZFR6 474 BOSTJAN SKUBIC SLOVENIA, Honda CBR600RR 477 WILLIAM MEYERS JACKSONVILLE, FL Yamaha YZFR6 481 RYAN L ANDREWS ROBINSON, TX Ducati 749R 500 MATT D LYNN BALL GROUND, GA Suzuki GSXR600 510 BARRETT LONG MIAMI, FL Yamaha YZFR6 517 JASON MATHIASON ALBUQUERQUE, NM Yamaha YZFR6 574 MIKE SULLIVAN CENTRALIA, WA Yamaha YZFR6 594 DAVID L MCPHERSON OSTEEN, FL Yamaha YZFR6 607 JOSEPH FORD LEBANON, NJ Yamaha YZFR6 681 STEPHEN BROOKS DELRAY BEACH, FL Suzuki GSXR600 731 M IVAN GARZA EL PASO, TX Suzuki GSXR600 751 JAMES KERKER MARYSVILLE, OH Honda CBR600 775 BRIAN SHAW MIAMI, FL Suzuki GSXR600 779 RICK SHAW PRINCETON, FL 911 MICHAEL A SMITH CANTON, GA Yamaha YZFR6 939 DARIN SCHERER GREENSBORO, NC Yamaha YZFR6 966 DAN ORTEGA MCHENRY, IL Yamaha YZFR6 980 BRUCE STANFORD GRAY, GA Suzuki GSXR600 |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 10:05 am: |
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only one BUELL, what happened to the other BUELL top guns! I thought they were racing, they had then in CW Magazine. Anyone knows whats going on with the BUELL teams. Thanks |
Ebear
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 10:06 am: |
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Don't think Shawn Higbee will be riding...He lost up to the first knuckle on his little finger,left hand and fused the ring finger middle joint also..(See Roadracingworldnews.com)...The race starts at 11:00 am left coast,so 2:00 right coast on Saturday!Before that they will be showing Superbike and probably some Supersports and Superstock highlights.I think that is from 8:00 to 11:00.....check SPEED channel program listing in your time zone to be sure. |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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So there are no Buells racing then, no point in watching then! |
Cataract2
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 11:53 am: |
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Dangit. Sigh.... |
Jscott
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 12:07 pm: |
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Speed channel schedule per AMA's website 3/10/05 3-6 p.m. (live) 3 hrs Repsol Lubricants Superstock Series Pro Honda Oils Supersport Championship presented by Shoei 3/10/05 11 p.m. (reair) 3 hrs Repsol Lubricants Superstock Series Pro Honda Oils Supersport Championship presented by Shoei 3/11/05 Noon (reair) 3 hrs Repsol Lubricants Superstock Series Pro Honda Oils Supersport Championship presented by Shoei 03/12/05 11:00 a.m. (live) 5.5 hrs AMA Superbike Championship presented by Parts Unlimited AMA Ford Quality Checked Flat Track Championship (taped from 3/10) Lockhart Phillips USA Formula Xtreme (Daytona 200) |
Sokota
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 12:12 pm: |
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No sound of Thunder mixin' with all those mad hornets, and its cold again with snow...double Dangit |
Jscott
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 12:14 pm: |
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If you want to see alot of Buells race you have to go to a FUSA event. Hopefully Hals, Innovative, Higbee, Etc. will up for AMA Barber in April. I suggest everyone root for Pascal Picotte who will be racing FX and 600ss. Unfornutely he will be on his Canadian spec 600 which will be down on power. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 12:54 pm: |
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Hell yeah...go to the races during Biketoberfest and you'll see a bunch of Buell racebikes and their crew first hand. |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 01:01 pm: |
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Those are only the pre-entries. I never pre-enter. |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 01:29 pm: |
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well, are any of these events happening near DC in the future. any in Myrtle beach bikeweek? thanks that would be cool, but i would still like to see a BUELL race with the other brands even if they don't win. |
Firebolt428
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 01:48 pm: |
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What happened to Mike Cicotto? He was supposed to be running in it? |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 01:55 pm: |
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i dont know what happend to Cicotto, im trying to find out too, i thought he was in for sure. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 01:57 pm: |
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IIRC they didn't feel the motor would last for the 200mi race since they are built for 20 lap sprints that work out to 60-70 miles total. And I can't blame them for not wanting to build and test ONE motor for ONE race out of the season when everything else is a 20 lap sprint. |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 02:17 pm: |
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well i can blame them if that is their attitude. what ever happened to winning or trying! so you run the battles and not the war. so you are telling me BUELL had a chance to maybe even win and then they whimped out. if they knew their engine could not compete and do 200 miles, why even do the interview in CW. Its really sad if this is true. (Message edited by buell2001b on March 09, 2005) |
Uwgriz
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 02:49 pm: |
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First, it's not actually Buell, they're private teams. As such, they're teams with tight budgets so they need to do what makes financial sense and it doesn't make sense to blow a big chunck of your budget developing something for one race at the cost of the rest of the season. |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 02:57 pm: |
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UWgriz, that is fine if you think you are going to loose. but if you think you have a chance ot even win then you dont have to worry about the money. the sponsors will be giving you anythign you need. everyone loves a winner, specially if it was the first american bike. talk about marketing. even Rossi might decide to ride a BUELL. he did say" i switched to yamaha a "lesser bike" to prove it was me and not the bike that won the races" bye bye Honda. |
Buelliedan
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:16 pm: |
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If it was only that easy to get the sponsors to give you everything you need to win races!! The winner of the 200 only receives $9000 as first prise. How much do you think it would cost for a one off XB engine specifically made for this one race? Not to mention the tires, pit crew lodging and meals, travel, etc.. I haven't seen too many sponsors lining up to give out checks to pay for that. As for Rossi going to Yamaha. He didn't exactly give up everything since he doubled his paycheck by switching to Yamaha. |
Uwgriz
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:28 pm: |
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You have to have the money to spend it. |
Imonabuss
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:29 pm: |
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Had there been a sponsor available, I am positive there would be Buells racing in the Daytona 200. Anyone know of a company with a spare half million that would like to have their logo in AMA Formula Extreme on about three dealer sponsored bikes? I can hook them up with the teams. |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:34 pm: |
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Rossi is a racer before money, and guys like that would jump to the challenge. He has so much money that if he was challenged to ride a BUELL he would probably would as long as he knew the bike had a chance. What if Buell would offer Rossi to name the racing model under his name, he would do it, it would make him inmortal. I would be the first in like to buy a BUELL Rossi bike. dude if there was a race within 2 hours from me, i would volunteer my weekend to help those guys at the BUELL pit, i would sleep in a tent, pay my own food. so all you had to pay was the engine. i would have even driven to daytona and used my vacation time to help in any way for the week. I just want one for America. |
Buelliedan
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:40 pm: |
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Its a nice dream. As said above, you need a cool hal million to really be competetive in FX. I haven't seen any sponsors even getting close to that figure. Do you REALLY believe Rossi switched to yamaha because he wanted to prove he could win on another bike and that money was not a factor? If you do I have some really nice beachfront property I want to sell you in El Paso, TX!! |
Jscott
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:41 pm: |
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Talk about putting your "reliability" skeptics to rest once and for all. We all know that the XB bikes are very reliable - so why not race just to show the world once and for all that the Buell can go the distance. If you ever get on any other race forums, every comment about about Buell is they will only make it 15 of the 68 laps or so. I don't believe that to be the case. How many DNF's did we have last year? Not many and I think one was an electrical gremlin and the other was a wreck. I still think that after all the recent publicity (CW, RRW, etc.) it was a big mistake for Hals not to at least show up and survive. If it was a funding issue - well shame on HD. I know most don't agree with this opinion, but i still do. |
Pcmodeler
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:47 pm: |
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Buell2001b, I haven't completely checked, but there may be some at the Virginia Raceway near Danville, VA this year. I may try and make it to Myrtle this year regardless. |
Uwgriz
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:48 pm: |
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We all know that the XB bikes are very reliable - in street trim. well shame on HD Why? For any manufacturer to going racing, it has to make financial sense. I'm quite confident that there are people with a much better insight into what makes financial sense to Buell and HD than any of us here that are making these decisions. (Message edited by uwgriz on March 09, 2005) |
Buelliedan
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:49 pm: |
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Actually the Buells had quite a few DNFs in last years FX races. Do you really think it would make a good impression to have a buell out there going 4 seconds a lap slower than the other brands? I don't think just finsishing is a goal I would want to shoot for. Do you really think non Buell lovers are going to care of a Buell finsished 3 laps down to the winner? And at what cost to the team? Is it worth it to spend at least $30,000 for one race and get maybe $1000 back if you are lucky? I understand why so many of the Buell teams have stayed away from Daytona. Even the Superbike guys will tell you the goal is to survive daytona not win it. And they are playing for points. |
Uwgriz
| Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:52 pm: |
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i would sleep in a tent, pay my own food. so all you had to pay was the engine. Not exactly a trivial expense. |
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