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Enduro261
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:26 pm: |
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I talked to this old rider today that swears he hates HD and Buell because most of the parts are made by Japanese. I wanted to tell him he was full of crap but, I wasn't sure myself. He said that the Japanese pulled HD out of the slump they were in early 1990's. Anybody know the real truth to this mystery. |
Rageonthedl
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:32 pm: |
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do you realy think all the parts are made in the US??? yeah right!! |
Enduro261
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:47 pm: |
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I know the frame is made in Italy, at least that's what I remember reading. But as for the engine, Japanese parts? |
Davegess
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:48 pm: |
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HD and Buell buys suspension parts form Japan. No one else makes the parts in the volume needed at the price they want to pay. HD buys lots of stuff from lots of places around the world. So does Ford, Toyota and Kia, Honda and Yamaha. HD pulled themselves out of the bad times of the 70's and 80's buy building better bikes and becasue the market came around to likeing them again. |
Ejiii
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:49 pm: |
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I work for a Japanese OEM. In many cases there is more US content in Japanese cars made in America than some American cars have. It's a global economy now. Buell, like everyone else has to use some non-US content. It's just kinda' the way it is these days. |
Newxb9er
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:59 pm: |
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Read the other thread Built Buell tough with Ford Stuff. This topic has been beaten up there!! Just face it, NOTHING with this many parts are 100% anything any longer. |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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Hell this even applies to myself. I was made IN America but my parts are 100% Italian. I'm only the second model to be made here & the design's still a little rough. |
Court
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 04:41 am: |
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>>>Anybody know the real truth to this mystery. Yes. Your friend is an idiot. Court |
Norrie
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 07:36 am: |
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I noticed that the calipers are made in Japan. They have Buell on the front of them but Nissin on the back the same make I had on my Honda. Norrie. |
Court
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:00 am: |
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>>>>I noticed that the calipers are made in Japan. Nissan are certainly made in Japan and this reminds me of the funniest of tales..... I am talking to a rough hewn "biker dude" one day who goes off on me about HD putting Nissan brakes on his "hog". He wasn't going to stand for having any product from some ferehn nathun that had tangles with the US. He demanded they put Gerling brakes on. Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay....... I rode away on my Buell with it's Gambler rear brake.... |
P0p0k0pf
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:33 am: |
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Honestly... Should this really be an issue to worry about? I say ride the bike and have fun! People who fabricate "issues" like these to bend themselves out of shape deserve what's comin' to them. Yeah, there are some "Jap" parts on the bike, as well as a mix of parts from all over the world. They work well! Until someone completely analyzes Nissin or Showa's expenditures and sourcing to find out exactly what comes from where within their ranks, I'll consider the complaint unfounded... A huge portion of their materials and technology may be American. You wanna see a lot of "Jap" parts? Open up the computer case you use to get on BadWeb... I hope that old rider boycotts every bike that isn't 100% American, and sits on his arse 'til one comes by... that'll show everyone! I hope he misses plenty of perfect, sunny days! BTW- if he hates the un-American HD and Buell, what does he ride? Sorry for any excess heat in this post... The jap portion of blood in my veins got offended.... |
Glitch
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 09:02 am: |
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I say ride the bike and have fun! After all that's what it's all about. If it bothers ya'll it wasn't built in your own back yard, remember, it's your back yard, build what you want. |
Firebolt020283
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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it may ahve a few jap parts in it as stated in the above post but one things for sure it was still desined, assembled, and the mojority of it was built in wisconsin dispite what anyone says. and last i herd wisconsin is in the USA |
Court
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:16 pm: |
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My concern exists on two levels: First, I'd prefer to loose the word "Jap" and replace it with Japanese. Second, please shut the lights off. That's right, please shut the lights off. I am here building this big ol' 500MW $880M power plant. My transformers just arrived from Seoul, Korea, the HRSG's (at 5 million pounds a piece) will be here July 14th from Indonesia (it missed us, thanks for asking) and all the Alstom technology is coming from France. Hey...might also want to smash your computer too.
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Spatten1
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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Court, will you cut it out! I've had cofee come out my nose twice today.
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Cataract2
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:21 pm: |
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it may ahve a few jap parts in it as stated in the above post but one things for sure it was still desined, assembled, and the mojority of it was built in wisconsin dispite what anyone says. and last i herd wisconsin is in the USA Exactly, I consider it American made if that is the case. Plus, the company was started and still is in the US. |
Davegess
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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This months National Geographic has a photo of a Mine and calls out not only where the parts are made but where the corporate headquaters of the company that made the parts are. Everywhere. Parts made in Korea for an Irish company. Parts made in Ireland for a German company. Parts made in England for a Canadian company. Parts made in the US for a Japanese company. It goes on and on. Every combination you could imagine and then some. |
Nedwreck
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:28 pm: |
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Better the Japanese than the Chinese. At least with the Japanese you know the parts aren't being made by political prisoners or worse, children. Bob |
Light_keeper
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:23 pm: |
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Scott Where did the Coffee come from? |
Court
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:36 pm: |
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>>>>Where did the Coffee come from? Well....the answer USED to be Columbia (for a nickel tell me how Columbia figures big in Buell history) but now if comes from......well, same place this guy came from in '42. P.S. - while we are hammerin' furiners, how about we blast Hendrix for leaving the USA to head for Great Britain England London UK to get famous so he could come "home" and get popular. I'm not ready to smash my Clapton vinyl yet and consider it an "international incident" that "Let it Rain" was written in cohorts with Delaney Bramlet on an internation flight FROM the USA to Britain no less!. And...now you are really getting me steamed, would Bramlet, a U.S. Army vet from Pontotoc, Mississippi, be on a plane LEAVING the U.S. of A. for goodness sakes. I am soooooooooooooooo ticked! Hey...gimme that file....I want to narrow my mind! (Message edited by court on January 31, 2005) |
Gearhead998
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:41 pm: |
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All of the drive train is made here in Wisconsin. What isn't machined from raw material at the Capitol drive Harley plant is outsourced to area machine shops. Who cares where the rest comes from when the heart beats american muscle. If you get a chance to come to Milwaukee, TAKE THE TOUR!! It is awesome. |
Light_keeper
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:42 pm: |
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Oh I get it now. There are underground coffee plantations in Seattle that ship to other places in the world so it can be shipped back and processed there? |
Fullpower
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:47 pm: |
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Buell has simply sourced the best available part for the job, without regard to national origin. example: the Nippondenso starter motor used on the sportster and Buell engines is simply the best small engine starter available anywhere. the 1.4 KW Denso reduction gear starter stock on your buell is the lightest, most powerful, and electrically efficient device available. that same starter can be adapted to and is sufficiently powerful to crank a 502 cubic inch hi compression big block chevy marine engine. also note that the starter is rebuildable, repairable, easy enough to source parts for, and built by well paid individuals who can vote. so put some good american gasoline in that bike and ride. |
Court
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:12 pm: |
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>>>All of the drive train is made here in Wisconsin True. Wanna see one of the Toyoda machines that makes Buell heads on Capital Drive?
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Court
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:15 pm: |
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>>>>There are underground coffee plantations in Seattle that ship to other places in the world so it can be shipped back and processed there? nah....the thread is so rediculous that I just tossed that in there. But, the Columbians were selling coffee by the ton for about $1.00...it took Seattle to make it $5.00 (mileage may vary if you are outside NYC) a cup! |
Enduro261
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:22 pm: |
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Pop, you asked what does he ride. Get this, almost made me pass out when he told me. This old guy rides a Honda Goldwing. He says he rides it because it's Made in Wisconsin, and since HD have jap part he may as well ride something reliable. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:24 pm: |
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a shiny nickel goes to the Newbi who can tell me who owns Showa... |
Buellman39
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:30 pm: |
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MADE IN AMERICA most of it |
Spatten1
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:33 pm: |
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Ride red. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 02:44 pm: |
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SHHHHAAAAAROOONNNN!!!! |