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Az28
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have a sound clip of a Jardine? I have an XB12and want to have a good Harley sound.
Thanks
JR
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Stainlessmag
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If i were to put the drummer and the 12 airbox on my 9 would i have to get the race ecm too or will it run pretty well without picking up the ecm
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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isn't the Jardine riveted together? I read a lot of posts here saying that rivets and Buells don't go together. I've read that the rivets get shaken so badly that they fail. Is this a myth or fact??? Quite frankly the thought of spending a couple hundred bucks and have a major failure due to shaking a bit disturbing!
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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, since this is the DRUMMER thread, kudos to Kevin and Brian for a pretty sweet re-working of the stock can. Still my number one choice when the time to upgrade is right!
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thats good BTW tucson
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just so I'm straight, a new drummer with badge is $350 plus core. Plus $50 for the exhaust tip mod if you want it would make $400. Is that right???? I want one!
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep thats correct..

email me

buckinfubba@hotmail.com
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Rokoneer
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I received my DRUMMER a couple months ago while I had my XB torn down completely and had not had a chance to actually hear it until yesterday when I finally got my bike out into Mother Nature for the first tine in a few months. I am not a particularly objective judge if for no other reason than the ONLY other exhaust I have ever heard on an XB is the stock issue, non-race, exhaust can.

I will just say that even after hearing a lot of other people raving about the DRUMMER's exhaust note it in no way prepares you for actually hearing it with your own ears. If you could have been driving by my house and seen me standing next to my XB and just revving it and then letting it idle and then revving it and letting it idle all the while with the biggest stupid ass grin on my face you would have thought I was a pea brain!

The DRUMMER sounds f'n incredible to my untrained ear, and once I get the TPS reset I can only hope that the ass clench factor goes along with the eargasm the DRUMMER provides.

Don't knock the DRUMMER until you try one.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roko
thanks for the props . glad ya like the lil bastard of the xb exhaust makers.

now get on that damn bike and go over to my brothers dentist office and show him what his lil brother helped come up with.....

enjoy it mister
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the FATLET

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Stainlessmag
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If i were to put the drummer and the 12 airbox on my 9 would i have to get the race ecm too or will it run pretty well without picking up the ecm
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Spooky
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 03:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stainlessmag,
you will need the race ecm.



Eric
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Stainlessmag
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx spooky, i was kinda hoping not so that i could wait until my 1000 mile service to put the ecm on, but its no biggie the dealer is close anyway.
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Jrock
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took my X1 on the first ride with my Drummer modified pro-series exhaust. WOW! I mean @#$!%&*! This thing rocks! I've been used to riding with the torque curve peaking around 5000, now I get a kick in seat at 2500 that doesn't stop until I lose my grip or the rev limiter kicks in at 7200.

Thank You Drummer for working your magic on my rather tired pro-series race exhaust. I expected an improvement, but this is like a different bike. That sound ain't bad either.

If you want to upgrade YOUR pipe, YOU GOTTA GET A DRUMMER. My 1203 and me are happy again. Pick a gear and nail it, just make sure you're hanging on...
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Kds1
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jrock,
Glad you like the mod!!!! Thanks for being open minded...All it takes is a little tweaking, and there you go....KEVIN
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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kevin,
Tell me more about what you're doing with the tube frame mufflers, please.
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Kds1
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,
Right now I'm doing some Pro Series Race Mufflers for the tubers....I can broaden the torque curve for ya...more seat of the pants than giving you dyno figures...read what Jrock said...I know what he's feeling because that's how I got started...call me at my shop...9am to 5pm eastern # 828-324-9991
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocky
I told ya I lead ya the wrong way!!!!
Kevin is pretty good at what he does. Glad ya like it. Plus good god it got ya to post again after a long absence. I will miss ridin with ya.Take care and I'll talk to you.


Steveford
the tube frames is where he got started on all this craziness. Thats why when I got the Idea for the drummer me and Kevin went to work.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All you guys ranting about your Drummer was making me jealous. I live about 10 miles from Kevin's shop and I'll soon be sporting a Drummer on my tuber.

Kevin I'll try to call you today, maybe tomorrow, and we'll set up the time/date.

My M2 decided it needed to eat the rear bearings yesterday so I first have to correct that. My lawnmower blew up earlier this week too. So, it's my week to tear stuff up. I liked that lawnmower too -- she'll be missed.

Greg
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greg
cool beans, you'll love it. Sorry about the bearings. Gonna miss ya man!!!!!
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Charley
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just put a Drummer on a XB12S with K&N filter
and race ECM .
but i found the performance gain on the dyno a bit disapointing.
i'll try to upload a graph later
anyone else got a dyno graph of a 12 with a drummer?
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charley

If you go and look in the previous there is a dyno with the drummer on a 12, it is only 4 or 5 hp and torque.
The stock 12 pipe works real well thats why the gains are small.

the 9's don't have the valve thats why the gains are bigger on them.

what did you get and did you dom a 4th or 5th gear pull?
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Charley
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

xb12s graph

Red = Stock 89,4hp @ 6413rpm 78 ft-lbs @ 5659rpm
Blue = with Drummer,Race ECM,K&N filter,frame
tube removed 87,3hp @ 6384rpm 79ft-lbs
@ 5282rpm
White wire disconnected and bike was run for
a while to give the ecm the time to "learn" and adjust.

edited by charley on June 02, 2004

edited by charley on June 02, 2004
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Deerhunter17
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey charlie, those numbers aren't impressive, seems it's been a while, how's the performance now ( seat of the pants I mean ) Do you like the drummer? Any suggestions. Thanks
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Buell_zen
Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran my Drummer with K&E filter, XB12 air box on a Dyno and got 78.3 HP on my XB9S. My response curve was very similar to the ones posted before. The only major difference was a hole in the torque curve from 4k to 5k RPM. Due to other posts I think it is because I didn't use the race ECM. I think it is going lean in that range. I have a race ECM and will put it on my bike. When I rerun my bike on a dyno, I am sure I will get very similar dyno response curves to the ones that are on the Drummer website.

I wanted to get an air fuel mixture at the same time. They said that they couldn't give me that because they couldn't insert the probe up the muffler far enough to eliminate air sucking up the exhaust pipe to spoil the reading. They suggested that I weld a bung on the headers to screw in their oxygen sensor near the front head.
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Tadams
Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where do I get a Drummer? I have just bought a '05 XB12R and I want to get a aftermarket exhaust. I will buy the race ecm plus a filter. My questions are what is the difference between the race pipe and the drummer pipe with the fatlet. Sound and performance. Again this is on a 12 and not the 9. How much is the drummer with the fatlet. How long do I have to be without my bike until the drummer arrives...I live in MA. Thanks again.. Todd
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Sleeper_777
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have installed a drummer on my 2003 XB9S. I have a race ecm and K&N filter. I had Kevin make a "quiet drummer". It's not really quiet, somewhere between stock and the Buell race muffler. This is not a ss version, it was carved from a stock unit.

I was previously using a Buell race muffler. After using the race muffler for 2500 miles, I can truly say the drummer feels better at low-mid RPM. The popping on deceleration is gone and I can hear the motor now.

I do not have any charts or scientific data to show any horsepower or torque claim before and after. But I know what I feel when I ride a bike. This thing feels better.

I did not previously know Kevin or am I affiliated with his business. I personally spoke with Kevin several times before and after the process. He is very approachable and loves what he is doing. My hats off to Kevin for fine workmanship.

Regards,
sleeper_777
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want one like yours, Sleeper.

As soon as I can afford it

(p.s. I heard Rocco's Drummer and I liked it)

(Message edited by tank_bueller on September 30, 2005)
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