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Sshbsn
| Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 10:47 pm: |
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From Roadracing World: "...Forbes Magazine ranked the 2000 largest companies in the world, based on sales, profits, assets and market value...#585 Harley-Davidson, sales $4,624,000,000, profits $761,000,000..." Yowza!! They are ahead of Yamaha and Kawasaki! If they REALLY scrimp and save, maybe they could one day field a small, modest factory Buell race team. |
Dasxb9s
| Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 12:19 am: |
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Don't forget... Buell is only 3%. Now from your figures that would be sales $138,7200,000 and profits $22,830,000 They should treat us better!!!!
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Sshbsn
| Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 05:53 am: |
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You know, I'm not one to doubt Forbes or Roadracing World, but as I went to sleep last night I thought about those figures. I thought maybe it was over a multi-year period, but reading further this morning, the article states "...Harley-Davidson continues to set financial records, including another record financial quarter in the first quarter of 2004. Harley-Davidson had $1.17 billion in revenue for the quarter..." Maybe not such a small, modest factory team after all!! I'd love to see it, and I think it would generate tremendous interest. |
Tripper
| Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 10:27 am: |
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You don't make profits by throwing away the income. Lesson...Aprilia. |
Fullpower
| Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 01:38 pm: |
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i want to PURCHASE a 600 cc motard style aircooled single, 6 speed,chain drive, no fairing, twin headlites. make it look some what like a lightning, but about 300 pounds, and 40 horsepower, and built in wisconsin. Mr. Buell, if you build this bike i WILL buy one. thank you in advance. dean. |
Sshbsn
| Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 10:39 pm: |
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Racing to promote a brand is not always throwing away profits. Lesson...Honda. |
Sshbsn
| Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 11:31 pm: |
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Dasxb9s-- Actually, they are not my figures, they belong to Forbes Magazine. Buell may very well represent 3% of HD's motorcycle sales income, but these figures are total sales income, e.g. parts, accessories, maybe also franchise and licensing fees, etc. I would imagine that these figures listed are actually Total Gross Income... |
Tripper
| Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 08:32 am: |
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Race to win and use the tracks lessons in your product like honda does = good. Race to "promote brand" but none of your customers care because you don't sell sport bikes? Sounds like something HD would do, rather DID with the VR-1000. Buell is a stand alone cost center within HD, I doubt they have the cash flow to go racing in a factory team mode. It's great that they give tech and moral support at the level they do, but I doubt HD will fund a Buell factory AMA FX effort thinking the rub-off will sell more Sportsters and Dyna Wides. |
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