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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how hard would it be to dye your own carbon fiber?

GOD DAMN THATS PIMP
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 03:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

roc
someone from ironmachine wants to SEE some of the dyed carbon stuff do u still have the contact info for the company u dealt with?
theres no info on the auction page (wich is kinda weird) plus its in singapore (wich is kinda iffy too) i just heard yesterday that singapore and turkey are REAL shady places to order online from


edited by 420at145mph on May 18, 2004
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hal's was selling a few XB9's with a similar paint job. I think they work with a painter that does that type of work. I know they were selling dash boards for Dressers with that type of finish.
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Roc
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I’m not interested in giving anyone free commercial access to something I have invested time and money in, think about it. If someone would like to see my bodywork they can come over to my house, or maybe we can meet at some MC/Buell event.

I have confirmed that the pictures in the auction are of my bodywork. The seller has no bodywork to sell and no current capacity to have any of the pieces made. The seller was given photos of my bodywork by the manufacturer. I would love to see what would happen if someone were to bid on it.

If you really want a set I can have one made for you. I will charge you my cost plus the cost of Badweb sponsorship and $200 for my partner. The cost will be around $2,000 and I can make no guarantees on fit, inner composition, or durability. If you want a few dozen sets I can get you a good price break.
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the guys from ironmachine.com are about to start MAKING carbon fiber peices
im trying to get em to make em LIKE THIS
i gave him YOUR contact info so hopefully he gets ahold of you and u two can work sumthin out or whatever
i just WANT this stuff BAD
but dont wanna spend 2 grand on it and have it not fit
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this is an email i got from the asb.com guys

We have had some of our Carbon fiber parts molded in colored cloth before.
It looks gorgeous, but we can't stock it because the variety would make inventory a nightmare. Also, the colored stuff is much pricier.

If you want me to get any of our parts quoted in color, I can probably do it. There will likely be some sticker shock, as I suspect there would be some minimum cloth buy issues that would drive the prices up. But I guarantee it would be top notch quality and drop dead gorgeous.
mabye i WILL end up with a blue carbon fiber bike after all


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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

kaz
hals got a website ?
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Buggie
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

halspa.com
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no pics of any carbon fiber peices
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Buggie
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

try this one
www.racingmotorcycles.com/
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ya i can find carbon fiber peices
ive narrowed it down to factory buell peices or linbuger peices from trojan horse or the asb peices, i like a BIG weave so im not sure yet
but the question is, is it easy to or can it even be done to just dye/paint your own carbon fiber?

edited by 420at145mph on May 18, 2004
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can paint carbon fiber bodywork. The colored woven stuff is a mix of carbon fiber which is black and something else like kevlar or fiberglass that can be dyed as desired. You cannot replicate the woven effect of a carbon/kevlar weave in a straight carbon fiber part, nor can you stain the kevlar after the fact as it is encased fully in epoxy resin/matrix which would prevent any dye from touching the dyable kevlar.
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so basicly no eh
i could paint carbon fiber but couldnt see the weave thru it?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe you could if you painted with a translucent color, like maybe a candy color.
But it's probably best to get the color you're after to begin with.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have all the parts needed to make molds... You could make your own CF parts. I've been considering that myself.
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

but the colored stuff is soooooooo damn spendy
and the only colored stuff ive seen so far has been shady
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen CF in different colours before ("clearcoated" and everything) - but I don't know anything about it.

Its called Ryceboy carbon fiber. Its fake carbon fiber look with different colors, its not real. Its not possible to dye carbon fiber because of the color its made in, black. Try dying a black t-shirt, it comes out black.

this is from some supercars board
ill go halfs on some of this with u m1 if u crank me oout some peices
http://www.uscomposites.com/hybrids.html
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Roc
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dye can be added to the binder when it is mixed, giving straight carbon fiber color. Tube frame parts were available this way for awhile. The look is similar to the blue carbon fiber Buell sold.



edited by roc on May 19, 2004
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

roc did anyone from asb.com or ironmachine.com get in touch with you?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I might be persuaded to go halves with someone but I'm not making their parts...
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

meh
i aint got the artistic touch to fab up my own
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

limit the ordering to Oreos, and you'll be fine (if memory serves)
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Stealthxb
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice link 420at145mph

I have access to all the machinery necessary to manufacture these parts. I would however, need some parts to make molds from. If anyone is willing to make some donations, let’s see if we can work something out.
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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an extra front fairing and belly pan but no tail section.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm, I have no extra parts but I could chip in a little more than my share for the fabric.
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thats why im hoping the asb or ironmachine guys start makin this stuff
cuz if u look at the back of the peices in the first pic it looks like plastic back there n i think this auction is a scam for some of that riceboy carbon fake stuff the guy from the supercar baord was talking about



edited by 420at145mph on May 19, 2004
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Roc
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

420 - Nope, no one contacted me.

I also think the auction is a scam, the boywork pictured for sale is in my garage.
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well they do have more than 1 set obviously with the colors on the auction
i just think its that riceboy stuff
is urs real carbon fiber thru n thru or plastic layerd with carbon fiber

bummer no1 got ahold of u i was hopin ironmachine or asb would pick up on this stuff n start producing it
still havent got a quote from them on a full setup but he said itd be top quality if he did make some
i could also kick in for material
i got no parts other than exhaust windscreen n 9airbox cover

edited by 420at145mph on May 19, 2004
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes tinted resin will give a colored effect, but not anywhere near the effect that Roc's parts display. Binder/resin/matrix... too many names for the same thing. : )
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i talked to a guy today that paints military airplanes
he said u could possibly add color to the clearcoat if is powderd pigment
wonder if itd be cheaper to just go that way
buy some nice big weave carbon fiber n then just get it clearcoated with colored clearcoat
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