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420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 03:03 am: |
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how hard would it be to dye your own carbon fiber? GOD DAMN THATS PIMP |
420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 03:28 am: |
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roc someone from ironmachine wants to SEE some of the dyed carbon stuff do u still have the contact info for the company u dealt with? theres no info on the auction page (wich is kinda weird) plus its in singapore (wich is kinda iffy too) i just heard yesterday that singapore and turkey are REAL shady places to order online from edited by 420at145mph on May 18, 2004 |
Koz5150
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 05:54 am: |
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Hal's was selling a few XB9's with a similar paint job. I think they work with a painter that does that type of work. I know they were selling dash boards for Dressers with that type of finish. |
Roc
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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I’m not interested in giving anyone free commercial access to something I have invested time and money in, think about it. If someone would like to see my bodywork they can come over to my house, or maybe we can meet at some MC/Buell event. I have confirmed that the pictures in the auction are of my bodywork. The seller has no bodywork to sell and no current capacity to have any of the pieces made. The seller was given photos of my bodywork by the manufacturer. I would love to see what would happen if someone were to bid on it. If you really want a set I can have one made for you. I will charge you my cost plus the cost of Badweb sponsorship and $200 for my partner. The cost will be around $2,000 and I can make no guarantees on fit, inner composition, or durability. If you want a few dozen sets I can get you a good price break.
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420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 02:04 pm: |
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the guys from ironmachine.com are about to start MAKING carbon fiber peices im trying to get em to make em LIKE THIS i gave him YOUR contact info so hopefully he gets ahold of you and u two can work sumthin out or whatever i just WANT this stuff BAD but dont wanna spend 2 grand on it and have it not fit |
420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:28 pm: |
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this is an email i got from the asb.com guys We have had some of our Carbon fiber parts molded in colored cloth before. It looks gorgeous, but we can't stock it because the variety would make inventory a nightmare. Also, the colored stuff is much pricier. If you want me to get any of our parts quoted in color, I can probably do it. There will likely be some sticker shock, as I suspect there would be some minimum cloth buy issues that would drive the prices up. But I guarantee it would be top notch quality and drop dead gorgeous. mabye i WILL end up with a blue carbon fiber bike after all edited by 420at145mph on May 18, 2004 |
420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:10 pm: |
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kaz hals got a website ?
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Buggie
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:15 pm: |
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halspa.com |
420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:24 pm: |
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no pics of any carbon fiber peices |
Buggie
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:30 pm: |
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try this one www.racingmotorcycles.com/ |
420at145mph
| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:37 pm: |
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ya i can find carbon fiber peices ive narrowed it down to factory buell peices or linbuger peices from trojan horse or the asb peices, i like a BIG weave so im not sure yet but the question is, is it easy to or can it even be done to just dye/paint your own carbon fiber? edited by 420at145mph on May 18, 2004 |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:00 am: |
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You can paint carbon fiber bodywork. The colored woven stuff is a mix of carbon fiber which is black and something else like kevlar or fiberglass that can be dyed as desired. You cannot replicate the woven effect of a carbon/kevlar weave in a straight carbon fiber part, nor can you stain the kevlar after the fact as it is encased fully in epoxy resin/matrix which would prevent any dye from touching the dyable kevlar. |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:25 am: |
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so basicly no eh i could paint carbon fiber but couldnt see the weave thru it? |
Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:34 am: |
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Maybe you could if you painted with a translucent color, like maybe a candy color. But it's probably best to get the color you're after to begin with. |
M1combat
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:34 am: |
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You have all the parts needed to make molds... You could make your own CF parts. I've been considering that myself. |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:35 am: |
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but the colored stuff is soooooooo damn spendy and the only colored stuff ive seen so far has been shady |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:41 am: |
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I've seen CF in different colours before ("clearcoated" and everything) - but I don't know anything about it. Its called Ryceboy carbon fiber. Its fake carbon fiber look with different colors, its not real. Its not possible to dye carbon fiber because of the color its made in, black. Try dying a black t-shirt, it comes out black. this is from some supercars board ill go halfs on some of this with u m1 if u crank me oout some peices http://www.uscomposites.com/hybrids.html
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Roc
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:04 pm: |
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Dye can be added to the binder when it is mixed, giving straight carbon fiber color. Tube frame parts were available this way for awhile. The look is similar to the blue carbon fiber Buell sold. edited by roc on May 19, 2004 |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:14 pm: |
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roc did anyone from asb.com or ironmachine.com get in touch with you? |
M1combat
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:23 pm: |
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I might be persuaded to go halves with someone but I'm not making their parts... |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 12:55 pm: |
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meh i aint got the artistic touch to fab up my own |
Bomber
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:09 pm: |
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limit the ordering to Oreos, and you'll be fine (if memory serves) |
Stealthxb
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:34 pm: |
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nice link 420at145mph I have access to all the machinery necessary to manufacture these parts. I would however, need some parts to make molds from. If anyone is willing to make some donations, let’s see if we can work something out.
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Torqer
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:45 pm: |
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I have an extra front fairing and belly pan but no tail section. |
M1combat
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:47 pm: |
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Hmmm, I have no extra parts but I could chip in a little more than my share for the fabric. |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 02:03 pm: |
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thats why im hoping the asb or ironmachine guys start makin this stuff cuz if u look at the back of the peices in the first pic it looks like plastic back there n i think this auction is a scam for some of that riceboy carbon fake stuff the guy from the supercar baord was talking about edited by 420at145mph on May 19, 2004 |
Roc
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:53 pm: |
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420 - Nope, no one contacted me. I also think the auction is a scam, the boywork pictured for sale is in my garage.
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420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:18 pm: |
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well they do have more than 1 set obviously with the colors on the auction i just think its that riceboy stuff is urs real carbon fiber thru n thru or plastic layerd with carbon fiber bummer no1 got ahold of u i was hopin ironmachine or asb would pick up on this stuff n start producing it still havent got a quote from them on a full setup but he said itd be top quality if he did make some i could also kick in for material i got no parts other than exhaust windscreen n 9airbox cover edited by 420at145mph on May 19, 2004 |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:23 pm: |
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Yes tinted resin will give a colored effect, but not anywhere near the effect that Roc's parts display. Binder/resin/matrix... too many names for the same thing. |
420at145mph
| Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:26 pm: |
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i talked to a guy today that paints military airplanes he said u could possibly add color to the clearcoat if is powderd pigment wonder if itd be cheaper to just go that way buy some nice big weave carbon fiber n then just get it clearcoated with colored clearcoat |