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Hoover_uly
| Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 10:07 pm: |
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I have been considering some Palmer Products Cruiser Pegs for some time and would like some owner feedback. I've read the posts I can find and while most are very favorable, I hope to gather a little more info. The main issues I hope to address with the pegs follow. Knee cramping. Mine are kinda bum and don’t like the peg position for more than 45 minutes or so. Much over an hour and it gets painful and distracting which becomes dangerous. I assume a 32 inch inseam is in the ballpark for a good fit? Sore ass. A long ride has me feeling like I’ve been sitting directly on my tailbone. I already have a Corbin seat which helps but it seems like if my legs were out forward, I would change my seating position significantly and reduce butt fatigue. Also have a tall and medium seat and don’t find either as comfortable as the Corbin. Right side engine heat. Just holding my leg out in the cruiser position for a moment seems to direct air up the inside of my leg. Do the Palmer pegs provide any relief from radiant heat through improved air flow? Summer heat is killer here in the deep south. Alternatives. I am also considering an airhawk seat pad or lowered pegs but it seems like I may get the most payback out of the cruiser pegs. I think the lowered pegs would be my last choice and the airhawk would be 2nd. Your comments will be appreciated. |
Ulyful
| Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 11:55 pm: |
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Hoover Uly, I am 6'5" tall (33-34 inch inseam). I feel your pain. Bought the Uly last fall to see what it feels like to "stretch out" on a motorcycle. I've been riding a Road King for many years (still have it), but still feel a bit cramped with the low seat height. Haven't put enough miles on the Uly yet. Will have Madstad windshield and Buell comfort kit on it soon. I was going to suggest handlebar risers but I see in your profile that you already have ROX risers, which have more adjustment than the 1 inch Precision Engineering risers I put on. If you decide to go with the cruiser pegs, be sure to let us know how they work out for you. |
Nillaice
| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 01:21 am: |
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If you are going to be doing some serious cruising, a madstad (or the like) or some DIY raising brackets are well worth it. It'll reduce most of your wind fatigue On to the pegs and knee pain I have a 36 inch inseam, and it took me riding coast to coast to find and correct the issue. Try to just relax your leg. I found that I was preloading the right peg ever so slightly and this was making my right knee and hamstring ache, but not my calf. I figured this out after 4 consecutive days cumulating 40 some hours in the saddle. Palmer pegs might do the trick for you. They seem like a good product line. you could run some pegs up from the muffler, if you can't find a set of Palmer pegs. I saw that a guy on buellxb did that with his firebolt iirc |
Kilgore1826
| Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 10:56 am: |
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Hoover_uly, "Sore ass. A long ride has me feeling like I’ve been sitting directly on my tailbone". I had exactly the same problem, after an hour my ass was numb. On a referral I got an airhawk seat pad. It is amazing. Did I mention it is amazing. Rode to James Bay (19 hours one way) and no issues with numbness anymore. You have to get the inflation just right but I swear by them. As far as the knee cramps, I get stiff too but just stretch them out. Am thinking of the lower pegs myself. But I definitely recommend the airhawk. Andy |
Lyonne
| Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 01:36 pm: |
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Which version of the Airhawk did you get to fit the Uly seat? |
Kilgore1826
| Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 06:35 pm: |
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I've got the 18 x 12 Air hawk 2. http://www.airhawk.net/airhawk-products.aspx
(Message edited by Kilgore1826 on March 16, 2014) |
Uly_man
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 02:53 pm: |
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Why buy a Uly then? It is NOT a Road King or Glide type bike in any form or fashion. If you want to "plough" use a plough horse and if you want to "race" us a race horse. And if you want to add a trailer buy a tractor. John Deere do some nice ones. Hey Ho it is your bike though. |
Portero72
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 03:20 pm: |
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'Sore ass. A long ride has me feeling like I’ve been sitting directly on my tailbone. I already have a Corbin seat which helps but it seems like if my legs were out forward, I would change my seating position significantly and reduce butt fatigue.' I doubt that a more feet forward riding position will alleviate pressure on the tailbone. If anything, it will make it worse. The classic 'cruiser' riding position puts most of your weight centered on your butt, while the riding position of a sport tourer enables the opportunity to more evenly divide the weight between pegs, butt, and bars. I see the butt/knee pain as separate issues, with different solutions. |
Rayycc1
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2014 - 05:34 pm: |
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Those Palmer Pegs are ugly as sin. There has to be a better way. |
Ulyful
| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 12:39 am: |
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Having ridden to Sturgis in 2 days (1300 miles) in the past (among other rides), back when I was 14 years younger than I am today, I consider myself somewhat experienced in long-distance riding. I know there are several of you out there that could put me to shame on that. Not looking to start a pissin' contest here. That's alot of miles/hours sitting on a motorcycle at 75 MPH for 2 straight dawn-to-past-dusk days of riding for MOST people. Did that on a Road King. Over the years, I significantly reduced the "useless" miles I put on my motorcycles. I consider "useless" miles those that I spend riding my motorcycle on the interstate getting from point A to point B (to the areas that I REALLY want to ride). The interstates in the Midwest where I live are about as exciting as watching paint dry--generally flat farmland or forest--nothing to look at. I trailer my bike now to places that take 8+ hours of riding to get to. That may change when I retire, but while I'm still working, I'm not able to go on extended riding trips. Trailering helps keep the accumulation of "useless" miles on my motorcycles down to a minimum. If I lived in the mountains, the ride to and from the areas that I really wanted to ride would probably be a little more exciting and worth riding my motorcycle to, but that's not the case where I live. I'd rather save the accumulation of miles on my motorcycles for roads worth riding on. I'm not the year-round, put-as-many-miles-on-my-motorcycle-as-I-can-type of rider. I'm more of a recreational rider. When you have a wife and 3 young kids that take up most of your time like I do, I'm lucky I get to ride at all. I savor what little time I do have to ride. There are all kinds of motorcycle riders on this planet. There are almost as many different reasons WHY people ride as there are people that ride. I respect 'em all, even if they don't ride like I do. I do have an Airhawk seat cushion. I use it for my 300-400 mile mid-distance riding trips. Great product. I generally don't use it while I ride the twisties though, just to-and-from the twisties. Getting back to my Sturgis experience, the CHANGE in riding positions over the course of a full day of riding the interstate is what generally helps people stay on a MC and motor on for long distances. Yes, there generally is a preferred riding position most people have that they find comfortable, but a good set of forward highway pegs, even if they are used only 10% of the time on a ride, gives people a position change that just might get them the relief they need to get them to the next gas/stretch stop BEFORE having to make a dedicated stop just for a stretch break. |
Uly_man
| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 01:32 pm: |
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I have to agree with Ulyful. Anyway for what it is worth. Try to exercise on the bike. That is move your butt around, lean froward/ backward and stretch your legs out while riding. Stop and walk around at least every hour. On my other bike I made a pad out of 4 mm open cell Neoprene, the sort used in scuba diving suits, and wrapped it around the seat. It worked great and you can add more layers for more comfort. Open cell Neoprene is soft rubber with microscopic air bubbles in it so acts as a cushion. And it is dirt cheap to do as well. In my case it cost nothing as I had some old "bits-n-bobs" around. Why pay more and it may be even better than a Air Hawk pad.
(Message edited by uly_man on March 18, 2014) |
Big_island_rider
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 01:58 am: |
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I try and find 3-4 positions that I can change around to on a rotating basis when going on longer rides. On my touring bike I have 7 different ones. Stretching legs and butt make all the difference in the world. |
Hoover_uly
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 10:26 pm: |
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All, Thanks for the responses so far. The constructive tips for increasing saddle time are sincerely appreciated. It would still be good to hear from someone that actually has these installed but if not, I guess I’ll have to go with info in previous posts. I expect to purchase the Palmer pegs in the near future with the understanding an Air Hawk cushion could be the next investment. I don’t expect the pegs to transform the bike into something it was never intended to be nor is that my intention. It is already about as close to a “do it all bike” as you will find in my opinion. Changing positions on the bike is a natural reaction to discomfort but simply is not enough for me as it is equipped today. Ulyful, you mentioned you are going to install Madstad brackets soon so I would like to suggest you also consider the Memphis shades. Next time you ride, hold you hand over the air box and you will notice the air rushing in under the windscreen. On my bike, this was hitting me directly in the abdomen and chest. The shades will eliminate most of this diverting the air out to the sides of the bike. I went with the Palmer tall windshield and brackets which helped but the Memphis shades made a huge difference. For me, there is a lot of rider fatigue associated with this buffeting at 75 MPH. |
Ulyful
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 12:18 am: |
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Hoover Uly, Yes, I've seen plenty of recommendations from Badwebbers for the Memphis Shades. I'm now giving them some serious consideration. While dialing in my Madstad windscreen last fall (angle and height), that's when I first noticed the strong upward movement of air over the airbox. I like wearing half-helmets on hotter summer days so I'll install some Memphis Shades if the breeze becomes excessive. |
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