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Wyckedflesh
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:38 pm: | 
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Court looking at the damage to the triple I agree it was from impact...but damn some light sanding, some polishing compound and a good coat of wax and I would have no problem throwing that front fairing on mine... |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 02:12 pm: |
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a couple years ago i crashed sportster, bent up the frame, broke the rear mounts off the crankcase, blew the oil tank wide open, bent up most other stuff. i kept the remains, squeezed 5500 out of the insurance company, refused to turn the parts over to them ( they were all mine, bought and paid) nothing in my policy gave them rights to any of my property at any time for any reason. i bought a new frame with the same VIN from HD, and a lot of other parts, had some tig welding done, and put the bike back together for around 2500. i still limp a bit, but the bike is running good. insurance company refused to pay any medical, but i made 3000 for my repair efforts. still paying off hospital bill, but thats life. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 02:18 pm: |
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You live in AK too. Most of the laws up there as I recall are aimed toward the benefit of the people. |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 03:49 pm: |
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Court,
I think he looped it. No pothole involved. Sounds like he is freely admitting rider error... suggesting the wisdom of starting off riding on a smaller bike and all.
I wonder if a set of more conventional (attached directly to forks) clip-ons would have saved the triple clamp? Looks to me like the hard impact of the right side handlebar with the ground caused the clamp to break.
Ouch,
"... didn't know i had to register to have my name come up."
You have to register to be able to post, anonymously or otherwise. I can see you are confused. No big deal.
Back on topic... If all your crashed machine needs short of cosmetic repair are forks and triple clamp and some levers/pegs, it would be worth pursuing a buy-back. You could probably offer the salvage yard $5000, and I bet they just might take it. I sincerely doubt that they will find anyone who is willing to pay $7K for a totalled XB12R. Don't be afraid to negotiate.
Are the forks bent? Is the frame in good shape?
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Fullpower
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:55 pm: |
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any one priced a bare XB frame from HD yet? i think they are fabbed in italy, and not terribly expensive.
would sure be cool to salvage a wreck, play around with the frame, and see if one could fabricate an additional gallon of fuel space aboard. i could enjoy a 4.5 gallon XB Touring model. |
Ouch
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:31 pm: |
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first,the accident was 100% my fault. no pothole was involved, when i went through the intersection the front end compressed coming back out of the dip and put the front wheel up in the air and threw me of the back of the bike. i was a good 10 feet or so sliding behind the bike.watching it flip over and slide down the road.
as far as the damage the right side of the fork was bent. the frame was bent. the rear swing arm was bent and scraped up on both sides by the rear axle. the muffler was crushed. the rear rim was ground and kinda flat spotted
and for the salvage yard. when i got in the accident, and brought it to my dealer to have the estimate done. when the insurance rep showed up to look at it himself he declared it totaled and had the salvage company come and pick it up right away, because the dealer was charging them storage. all this happened when i was at work, and no one called me to let me know. by the time i found out about it, it was to late. the salvage company wouldn't give it back. i even called the cops to find out what to do. they said contact the insurance company they would help me out. they didn't. all they did was say we already cut you a ckeck(witch took 2 months to get)and that i do not own the bike anymore.
as for getting another bike i bought a new one just after thanksgiving 03. |
Ouch
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:35 pm: |
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Ouch
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Ouch
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:38 pm: |
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Spike
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:42 pm: |
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Fullpower,
I priced the '04 XB frames the other day. XB12 (graphite grey) frames are $1450 retail. XB9 frames (fluid silver?) are a little less, closer to $1300 if I recall correctly.
Mike L.
'04 XB12R (92.4rwhp) |
Court
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:46 pm: |
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The frames are made by Verlucchi under the watchful eye of Buell. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 05:51 pm: |
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I talked to a few people about it... It seems as if when the ins. company gave you the check they in essence bought the rights to the bike out from under you. They then either give or sell the bike to the salvage company to cover storage fees or make a little of their cash back. MOST ins. companies will give the policy holder first dibbs on buying the bike back but of course it will be at whatever price they want to charge.
If the salvage company wants 7K for the bike, it's most likely because the salvage company owner wants a Buell engine for a special project. Sounds to me like it's time for a black op. It would be hard to get a Buell engine over a tall fence though...
Methinks the ins. company adjuster may have a relationship of some sort with the salvage yard as well. |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 06:16 pm: |
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I agree M1, that is not right, the bike is yours until you sign over the title and take payment. I suspect that Ouch may have signed over the title, and so the deal was legal and proper. They are going to be VERY disappointed if they actually believe that they can get $7K for that bike. |
Ouch
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 06:30 pm: |
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i never got a title for the bike from the state. i didn't have the bike long enough before i crashed. one of the forms the insurance company had me fill out was for dmv to issue the title to them. buy filling out the form i gave up the right to the bike to the insurance company. i didn't find out about all this until i got a lawyer involved. |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 07:08 pm: |
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amidst my insurance adjustment, i steadfastly refused to sign all documents. they took a few months, and a couple handwritten letters, several faxes, and maybe 25 phone calls, always real close to 5 pm, and concentrated on fridays. they finally cut me a check. i never gave up posession of my bike, but harley had to have the old bent frame back, before stamping numbers on the new frame. cost of a 1998 sportster frame was $736 delivered via fed ex to alaska. i believe the stripped frame weighed 38 pounds. |
Dynarider
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 10:13 pm: |
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no pothole was involved, when i went through the intersection the front end compressed coming back out of the dip and put the front wheel up in the air and threw me of the back of the bike. i was a good 10 feet or so sliding behind the bike.watching it flip over and slide down the road.
In other words you were trying to do a wheelie & as Blake guessed it, you looped the bike. No big deal, been done many times by people. Hell I looped a CBR600 in 2nd gear & watched it somersault down a bridge.
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Ouch
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 10:50 pm: |
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dyna
that is just it. i didn't know there was a dip in the road on the other side of the intersection. iwas not trying to wheelie,the front end came upvery fast and unexpected. |
Nevco1
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 11:53 pm: |
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Well, I guess that puts a new definition to the term "BREAK in period."
Ouch...sorry to learn of your misfortune and not making fun of you. Glad to hear you survived and went on to buy another bike.
Like Dyna said, we all do it at one time or another. I was 16 when I did mine. Repeatedly tried to do a 1st gear wheelie and was totally frustrated.
Then with a little too much throttle before I popped the clutch, I found myself running down the road holding on to the handlebars of a bike that was totally vertical. Didn't last long as I was apparently gassing it at the same time. Ergo, it looped and landed at my feet.
The funny part was it was rented and I had to pay a whole $10 for damages when I returned it. Oh Man, things were a lot more affordable in 1964. LMAO |
Seanp
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:15 pm: |
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Ok, well, just so you all know, I'm not on crack, and I decided against getting the XB12R. Instead, my wife has agreed to let me get two motorcycles, a 2003 Blast and a 2003 XB9R. Together they will cost less than the 2004 XB12R. So I will ride the Blast until I feel comfortable riding around and driving in traffic, etc. Then I will have the Firebolt, and my wife can learn to ride on the Blast. So hopefully everything will work out well! And I think I'm getting a decent deal on the bikes. I hope...
Thanks for all of your advice - it helped me to not make a really bad decision. |
Dbird29
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:38 pm: |
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Sean,
That is the coolest way to go!
Just make sure your wife doesn't "graduate" to the XB first. I know from experience that it is hard to keep her(wife)satisfied in the motorcyle dept, you'll soon be buying 2 XBs.
Have fun, do the MSF stuff together and don't rush it.
DBird |
Captainkirk
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 11:06 pm: |
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Seanp, you've got more patience than I do- I woulda gone for the 12 regardless of what I wrote! |
Seanp
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 11:44 pm: |
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Well, I figure after making it through a year here in Baghdad, I'd really be pissed at myself if I got home and killed myself two weeks later trying to learn on an expert bike.
I've already taken the MSF course, but I think I am going to enroll myself and my wife in the one this May, so that I can get a refresher, and she can start learning with an expert. It should be fun! |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 05:13 am: |
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>>>Well, I figure after making it through a year here in Baghdad
Thank you.
Court |
Cj_xb
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:08 am: |
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Way to go Seanp, and good decision on the bikes !!
Once you learn and graduate to XB9 and your wife rides the Blast you'll have way more fun riding with her anyway !!
CJ : ) |
Jerseyguy
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:45 am: |
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Seanp - God bless you and keep you safe brother. And thank you from all of us.
Steve |
Nevco1
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:41 am: |
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Sean...Outstanding!!! You win all the way around and so does your bride. |
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