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Gopher
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 02:51 pm: |
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I have all the parts now (thanks No_rice) and I have a quick question, the return line goes to the fitting which has the arrow pointing to it correct?
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Cme2c
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 03:12 pm: |
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Yes, that looks like it. Plan on getting your cursing dictionary out, you'll need it. I made up a few new words when I was trying to get my line on that fitting. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 03:15 pm: |
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Yeah, it looks like a complete bitch to do. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 03:31 pm: |
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Anyone gone thru the process and willing to offer some tips? |
Gopher
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 03:35 pm: |
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Well the good thing I have a buddies bike to try it with first...the bad thing is that then is another one to do....lol |
Drawkward
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 04:21 pm: |
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You have a part number for the charcoal canister and a proposed place to put it? Also, is this for the fuel vapor? I'm assuming it is and it would help with the sometimes obnoxious fuel smell after a hot ride...correct? |
Keef
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 07:12 pm: |
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not to bad to do u gotta take the linkage loose 2 allen screws pop the cap off and feed the hose underneath the linkage and put it on the nipple... |
Sknight
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 07:22 pm: |
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It's a lot easier than it looks. Just take the throttle bodies off. Leave the cables on, loosen the top clamps of the boots under the bodies, I needed a 7MM flex socket, three inch extension, in 1/4" drive. They just pop off the boots. Make sure they're popped all the way down in the boots when you put them back on. |
Keef
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 07:26 pm: |
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you pulled the throttles off? |
Keef
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 07:27 pm: |
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throttle bodies |
Sknight
| Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 11:11 pm: |
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Yep. No kidding it took two minutes each way. You loosen the clamps, the bodies come right off. I didn't have to take the throttle cables off, there's two plugs on the bottom of the bodies, one for the idle air valve that needs to be unplugged, one for the TPS that can be left alone I think. Don't forget to plug the connectors back in. Literally it took two minutes to remove the bodies, hook up the hose, two minutes back on. The injectors, fuel lines and related connectors are left alone. Easy peasy. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 10:00 am: |
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I just might have to do this myself after seeing that the race track nearby Tulsa, OK will kick a bike off the course for leaks ... Any leak. Mike (Message edited by milleniumx1 on March 06, 2010) |
Poppinsexz
| Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 12:15 pm: |
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I removed the allen bolts that hold the throttle linkage bracket in order to get some room. I then used a long set of bent needle nose pliers to pull the hose up on the nipple. It sucked. I did look into removing the bodies but decided against due to the chances of creating leakage. All in all buy or borrow some vacuum hose pliers or a set of long shank needle nose pliers with an angled head. Oh and a little dishsoap on the inside of the hose will go a long way. Just don't use any oil based products. |
Gopher
| Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 06:45 pm: |
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Drawkward the part numbers are: 27042.84A carbon canister P0066.1AM hose P0067.1AM hose The cannister goes under the seat just behind the rear brake reservoir and yes it is for the gas fumes and the fact I am removing my passenger pegs....... |
1buell1125r
| Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 08:58 pm: |
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Just put canister on, should anything be put on other end with single outlet or just leave like it is |
Averagejoe
| Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 10:21 pm: |
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I just left mine open, and its great not worrying about the fuel leaking out my vent. Ohh and I didnt buy the hose from the tank vent just used some hose I had laying around the garage from another bike, sure you can get at auto zone, for just a couple dollars, now the one going to the throttle bodies has a sharp 90 bend so need to order that one if you want it to fit right. (Message edited by averagejoe on March 14, 2010) |
Poppinsexz
| Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |
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I also left mine open. |
Drawkward
| Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 10:31 pm: |
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Thanks for the numbers Gopher. I plan on doing this soon. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 09:12 am: |
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By 'open', you mean you ran the inlet tube to it but didn't run an outlet, the one from the can to the TB? That doesn't create fumes (or worse, drips) under your seat? Mike |
Poppinsexz
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:13 am: |
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I took it he was talking about the large breather opening on the opposite side from the throttle body and tank connections. It is there so that you don't pull a vacuum on the tank. |
Averagejoe
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:14 am: |
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No the vapors go into the cansister, and I guess the vacuum from the throttle bodies slowly sucks it out, there are 2 small nipples on the one end, and they are labeled, one to carb I think it says, and other to tank. Then on the other end is a big one about 1/2" thats the one to leave open ohh and it just sits right in the little cubby hole under the back end of your front seat, just shove it in there no straps or anything, it fits snug in there. |
1buell1125r
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:20 am: |
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Yes that's the hole I'm talking about, not the two that are marked. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:03 pm: |
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Got it. I didn't think you were leaving the outlet (canister to TB hose) open. That would be easier than installing that hose, but probably not all that wise Mike |
Squarecircle
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:25 pm: |
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Greetings All; >>>>> I have the California mandated evap. canister that is sequestered under the seat. With the intention of gaining more room under the seat for tool and small parts storage, I extended both hose lines to the rear and mounted the canister under the license plate. Are there any opinions PRO or CON on this mod. Youth wants to know! Thank you and Regards,sq. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:26 pm: |
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Nice advice about the popping the TB off. I would much rather do that then mess with the cables and such. Seems when I goof with those, they never seem to work as smoothly as before. For those 49-state bike owners that have removed the passenger pegs (and vent line from the tank)--where are you running the line so the dripping fuel doesn't get all over the bike and possibly tires. |
1_mike
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:13 pm: |
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Straight down from where the front of the stock muffler used to be. But consider, other than vapor, I've never had any liquid dripping from my CR vent tube. Mike |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:23 pm: |
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Are there any opinions PRO or CON on this mod. Youth wants to know! Only aesthetic concerns IMO. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 06:24 pm: |
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But consider, other than vapor, I've never had any liquid dripping from my CR vent tube. I venture to say that as temps heat up in the next couple months, that will change. |
Sknight
| Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:50 pm: |
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When vapors are pushed out of the tank the vapors go into the canister, the charcoal strips off the hydrocarbons and basically raw air goes out the large opening on the end. The hose for the TB is above the throttle plate so the only time vapors are being drawn out is when the throttle blade is opened past idle. That's called purging. What happens is air is drawn through the large end of the canister, through a filter in the end of the canister, then drawn across the charcoal. The hydrocarbon vapors get picked up by the air and then travel into the TB to be burned in the engine. Air is like electricity, it takes the easy out. The vast majority of the air comes from the large port, very little is actually drawn from the tank, what gets in there is from natural expansion, in fact I'll bet the tank breathes through it. However don't overfill the tank. Hitting the highway is an adventure in rough running for a couple of minutes until the extra is purged out! Don't ask how I figured that out. Oh, the check engine light will clear if you turn the key off then back on. |
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