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Jraice
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:55 pm: | 
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Oh and I really think you should try a set of Road 2's.
Still lots of grip but much better longevity and it sounds like you do a lot of touring. Plus I want to see what kind of mileage you get out of that tire!
Its usually almost double the mileage someone would get out of a Power. For example some go through a Power in 4,000 and a Road 2 in 8,000 while some do a Power in 2,000 and a Road 2 in 4,000.
You could be getting 18,000+ miles out of a set of those!
Maybe even 20,000+ out of a front. |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 02:15 pm: |
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With the cold weather temps that I ride in early/late in the season I worry that a tire without the softer side compound may lose the grip in the corners. Mileage isnt as important as confidence/safety. |
Jraice
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:15 pm: |
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Road 2's have a soft side compound...
But if your getting 9,000 miles out of PP2cts then more power to you and stick with it!
I am pretty set now on the Rosso's... After that (unless I am just in love with them, which is totally possible) I am going to look into BT-016's and the new Sportmax Q2 from Dunlop which are multi compound. If I am not happy with the Rosso's I dont see why I'd love the Corsa III as its basically the predecesor to the Rosso (regular Diablo) with a softer compound and a multi compound rear tire.
I may also look into trying a straight Pilot Power sometime... as thats a pretty popular tire. |
Nuerburgringer
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:19 pm: |
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Both the Corsa III and Rosso have wonderful handling characteristics for the XB, extremely compatible. My last set of Corsa IIIs lasted 700 miles on the street, and the last 200 of that 700 were shaky. My current set of Rossos has well exceeded that 700 miles already, with quite a bit to go. The Rosso's performance threshold is obviously lower, but more than enough for hard street use. I would consider myself to be on the extreme end of the sportriding spectrum, and am having no issues with the Rosso. The Corsa III is fine if you have the budget for it; I no longer have the budget.
I tried the Pilot 2CT, once. The Pirelli is more compatible with the XB's quirky geometry than the Michelin. The Michelin is certainly less bad than a lotta others, but Pirelli's got it beat.
(Message edited by nuerburgringer on August 19, 2009) |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:24 pm: |
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My last set of Corsa IIIs lasted 700 miles on the street, and the last 200 of that 700 were shaky.
 Are you missing some zeros?
Otherwise I suspect the last 200 of 700 were spent doing a burnout, hence the shaky. LOL |
Nuerburgringer
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:19 pm: |
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"I suspect the last 200 of 700 were spent doing a burnout, hence the shaky."
No "stunt trash" here. It was all hard sportriding miles. I live ten miles from the Sierras, and the group that I ride with are all licensed roadracers, including myself. So, the rides tend to be rather "spirited". Corsa IIIs did not fare well in this group. Some of the other (non-Buell) riders seem to be having good luck with Qualifiers, but they don't work well on the XBs. I wasn't that impressed with the 2CT either; never could get decent front-end feel out of them. They stuck okay, but feedback sucked on the XB. They do admittedly work well on other bikes. At the end of the day, Pirellis simply WORK on these XBs. Do a back-to-back, and you'll ALWAYS notice how uniquely suited they are to the XB. As far as I'm concerned, there's no point in experimenting with anything else anymore. The Rosso is fine for street, and other versions work well for track/race.
(Message edited by nuerburgringer on August 19, 2009) |
Jraice
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:28 pm: |
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Thanks... Sounds like the Rosso is a good way to go... although I ride an Ss (Lightning Long) so its not AS quirky of a setup...
I will say (again) I didnt like the OEM Pirelli's... Diablo T I think they were called. They didnt seem to like leaning over but I hear the opposite about the higher end Pirelli's so I am up to try them out again.
How much more expensive are Corsa III's then Rosso's?
Im starting a tire fund now  . $50's a paycheck is going into it, should have just enough for tires but the time I am done with the Road 2's... The Rosso's should last me a while, Ill still be riding a LOT but with the colder/wetter season (its California though so I still ride all year) and school starting up, it wont be AS much. I still like to do 100 mile days as often as I can during the week even with work and classes. |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:33 pm: |
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I dont believe 700 miles out of a set of tires qualifies as a "spirited" ride anymore. |
Jraice
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:19 pm: |
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Then what does it qualify as?
And what tire pressure's were you running to get that low of mileage?
I have some buddies that get low 1XXX's all the time out of various sport tires but 700, thats REAL low. Especially with a Buell. An Hayabusa, maybe. |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:27 pm: |
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I'm curious to what tire pressures were used as well.
Proper pressure for road conditions and temp is a huge weak point for me and I have much to learn so my ears always perk up when some one starts talking about air pressure. |
Jraice
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:30 pm: |
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On that subject, what are you guys running the Rosso's at?
I have heard 34/36 F/R...? |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:38 pm: |
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That's exactly what mine are set at.
34 f 36 r
Edit: I run the recommended street pressures because as stated above, my knowledge of air pressure is just enough to be dangerous but not enough to always be correct. 
(Message edited by metalstorm on August 19, 2009) |
Hogs
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 07:25 pm: |
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Alot of guys I know run 40F 42 R they swear by it...Makes their tires last awhole lot LONGER this is on the street, and yes they have no Chicken strips at all so they are getting down....
Anyone else Thoughts on this running high pressures for the street...And once again I know these few guys, they can handle their Buells in the corners etc etc |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 09:49 pm: |
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I'm running higher pressure in my current, worn out tires just so I can eek a few more miles out of them before I get new ones. I haven't noticed any handling issues, but the tires have no problem heating up this time of year so who knows?
My front is at 37/38 and the rear is at 40. I'll run 34/36 on the Rossos when I get them. |
Ripdog28
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 07:48 pm: |
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Pirelli recommends 40/40 on the rosso, said it gives the best road feedback and excellent grip. |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 09:20 pm: |
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Ah good to know! |
Wardamneagle
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 10:01 pm: |
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I switched recently (600 miles ago) from Pilot Powers to Corsa III's. Never going back. I love these tires. Turn in is incredibly smooth and there is a lot of grip to be had. So far they are looking like they are holding up just fine and should last me a good while longer. |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 10:18 pm: |
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40/40 on the Rosso?
Wow,I would have never had guessed so high.
Thanks Ripdog28
Edit: I'm assuming that's 40/40 cold?
I'll be trying that out tomorrow on the ride to work
(Message edited by Metalstorm on August 20, 2009) |
Jraice
| | Posted on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 02:29 am: |
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Glad to hear you liked the Corsa III's! I still am set on starting with the Rosso but will try out the Corsa III if I want something even stickier (I wont need it) or maybe if I get into track days... |
Metalstorm
| | Posted on Friday, August 21, 2009 - 08:21 pm: |
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I tried out the 40/40 setup and couldn't really feel a difference from the 34/36 setup.
In all fairness though, there was too much traffic to play properly.
Traffic was moving at a brisk pace but I couldn't get anywhere near the speeds (mainly the hard acceleration out of the corners) required to make the rear spin a fraction or so.
I guess I'll have to wait until Tuesday morning to give it the true test.
I can say that even though I can't tell if it's better than the 34/36,..
at sane speeds it certainly isn't worse |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 05:26 pm: |
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I really dig the Corsa IIIs, but I was only ever able to get about 4500 miles out of a set.
FYI, I did get 8000 miles out of a few sets of Bridgestone 020 tires. They handled fairly good with no issues. I believe the 020 is now the 021. When I am done using all my race take offs, I may spring for a set of 021s. |
Phelan
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 05:54 pm: |
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I love the Corsa IIIs, but I'm running Scorpion Syncs on the rebuild for a different look. If I don't like these as much, I'll probably spring for some Rossos. I've never had a tire stick the way a Pirelli does, so I won't run anything else. |
Jraice
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 07:37 pm: |
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FWIW the 021's are a sport touring tire, more in the line of the Pilot Road 2's I am currently running. Might try them (as well as Dunlops ST tire, the Road Smart out sometime in the future but for now I want to see what a full sport tire is like...
You guys (as well as the online reviews) are making me more excited to ride with the Rosso's then you can imagine!
I am picking my bike up from the shop Tuesday and it should be running with full compression for the first time and stop burning oil. Im also buying my first racing suit (Revit suit, usually ride in a Dainese Zen jacket but only wear textile riding pants) but neither of those are exciting me as much as tires, which will have to wait a month or two. I am making a tire fund, Ill probably put the Rosso's on as soon as I have the money to and the Road 2's are almost at the wear bars.
I know tires dont make you a better rider and I am sure many can go WAY faster on the Road 2's then I do, actually I know a lot of people that do, but I am sure Ill improve just a little, or gain the confidence to improve, with the Rosso's. I know I improved within a few days (enough time to get used to them) of switching from OEM tires to the Pilot Road 2's. OEM's just didnt like to turn in... Even with big wide bars. The PR2's turned in better with clubman bars then the OEM Pirelli's did with Pro Tapers. |
Jraice
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 07:37 pm: |
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Oh and I believe the Italians when they say the Rosso is a work of art both in its riding AND its look.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/254006/images /pIRELLI-DIABLO_ROSSO.jpg
Mmmm look at that rear tires edge . |
Triumph_bonnie
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 12:30 am: |
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Corsa III are great tires if you don't need to worry about how long they'll last. But I do most of my riding in the slower touring type mood with the occassional shit and get through a few turns. Left home at the end of last month with about 5000 on the set and decided to venture the 920 miles to Sturgis on my XB12R. Well made it there but left the rear tire somewhere along the way. So 6000 is about all I got out of the rear. Had to put what I could find on to get back home and haven't pushed the new Avon yet. So don't think I will be getting the Corsa's again. |
Jraice
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 01:01 am: |
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6000 out of a Corsa III is a lot from what I have heard!
But then again you admitted you dont ride very hard most of the time.
Guess its not the tire for you.
Check out the Pilot Road 2's, with your riding style you could get 10,000 miles out of them possibly, they grip enough to drag hard parts, even in the rain  , and wont flat spot if you do a lot of commuting. |
Hexangler
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 01:06 am: |
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FYI Cycle Gear Sacramento has Diablo's (OEM not Rosso) for $99 rear, $79 front while supplies last.
They have a big stack last I checked.
I've used them exclusively, and my only complaint is the front seems to slide before the rear, which can be unnerving.
Maybe a Rosso up front might help, but I've still got a spare set to go. |
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