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14d
| Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 02:47 pm: |
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Hey everyone, got my first bike right before thanksgiving (2000 X1), and unfortunately haven't been able to ride it for the last month. Last time I was riding it the clutch burnt out on me, from what I can tell because there was too much tension on the cable. The bike is in pretty good shape otherwise, 8.2k but it had been neglected (oil was almost a quart low, primary oil hadn't been changed in quite a while). I've never done any clutch work, but have done just about everything else on a car, and feel pretty confident about doing it. Should I get an aftermarket clutch, or go with the oem, and replace the grenade plate. Will I need any other special tools other than the clutch spring compressor? Still has the paper gaskets on the rocker box covers and one is leaking, so I'll be replacing that, anything I should know about this that the service manual doesn't tell me? I haven't been able to find the gaskets online, and the dealer ship sucks here, anyone know a site? After riding a few other bikes, it became apparent that mine handles like crap. It definitely needs new tires, and I'm going to check the head bearings this weekend. The rear end feels like a pogo stick, even after tuning it. The rebound adjustment barely does anything, and on the last ride (when the clutch went out) the rear shock started leaking from the front seal. I've never torn into shocks before, so I'll probably bring it into the shop for that. I'm hoping that and the tires will take care of the handling. Sorry if this is too long or posted in the wrong topic. Thanks in advance |
Oldog
| Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:23 pm: |
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I think that you have it straight not rocket science, I did not read that post too close, My 0.02$ change all fluids and ride it for a while this spring. yes to the gaskets, check the adjustment of the clutch before trashing the plates and tearing in, about 1 qt in the primary about 2+ almost 2.5 in the bag/motor hd for the box mobil 1 20/50 for the mill [ let the flames begin ] |
Hippyjoe
| Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:52 pm: |
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What Oldog said on the clutch. I'd go a bit further and say no more than 28 oz in the primary otherwise it'll leak, you can also check the level by pulling the cover and fill it that way. I like HD oil in the mill because imo synth is more likely to puke past the seals, especially the sprocket shaft seal, but that's just my opinion... although these motors have been known to blow that seal. The stock Harley clutch is very good, if you can't get it to hook up by loosening the cable then just check the parts inside, replace any burned friction plates and as you call it the grenade plate while you're in there. In fact i run the same thunderstorm lightning motor you have, I softened the clutch with a Uly spring, it is much easier to use and imo the clutch pack should hold together a little longer with the reduced force being applied to the system every time the lever is pulled... again my opinion but for me it works. As for the gaskets you might still be able to get the new ones goodwill from a dealer but I kind of doubt it. Check with the sponsors especially Al at American Sport Bike or Nallin and they'll get you going. At 8k miles you shouldn't really need to do a whole lot to your bike, especially an 01. If your rear shock is leaking then it's safe to say it's blown, if you find a good dealer you might be able to goodwill it, otherwise look in the classsifieds or auction, 150 more or less is the usual going rate on a used one. As I recall the spring compressor is the only special tool you'll need. Be careful and make sure you have a good allen wrench on the cover screws, actually you can get a metric one and tap it in there for the tightest interface, those screws are loctited in and can be a bitch to pull. |
Akbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 08:37 pm: |
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As always, if you don't already have one, get a service manual. The sponsor section here is a good place. Since you will be doing rocker box gaskets, this would be a good time to dive into the cam cover and replace the oil pump drive gear with the heavy duty one. And perhaps the XB rocker box conversion. One issue I have had, and others have reported, is a LOT of noise on start up after doing the rocker box gaskets. The lifters tend to "bleed down", causing excess clearance. A gentle lap about the neighborhood cures the problem. And since you have to (most likely) replace the rear shock anyway, the aftermarket ones are reportedly much better than stock. One of the things on my list. |
14d
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 04:04 am: |
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Got a PDF of the service manual, just gonna put it on the laptop when I work on the bike. I'll just go with the stock clutch then, hopefully the dealer will have it in stock. From what I've read, the XB rocker box conversion will take care of all the blowback through the breather line, is not too expensive, and pretty easy? I was going to get a catch can, but that sounds much better, for not much more. |
Farrisbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 02:41 pm: |
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I put a energy one extra clutch plate kit with heavier spring in mine. Also at the same time a mueller lite clutch arm. Both very nice products. Plenty of grip, light pull, and no exploding spring loaded center plate. |
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