| Author | Message | ||
     B00stzx3 |
Hey guys. Worried I can't take girls on my Firebolt since I can't flat foot, even after the XBSL forks and shock. I can stand balls of my feet and control the bike well, but I'm worried what a 100 pound passenger would be like. But I NEEED to be able to take a girl on the back, I've gotten plenty asking for a ride. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The rider will compress the suspension and make it easier to control. You may be able to flat foot with a passenger. | ||
| Buelliedan |
First thing is I think you are way under-estimating the weight of the average American girl. Most will go at a minimum 125-140 even in the best of shape. You are right however in that if you cannot flat foot the bike you have no business putting a passenger at risk on the back. | ||
| Barker |
practice, its all about your comfort level im 5"10 with stubby legs and I ride a uly with a tall seat. im tippy toe @ best. | ||
| Greenlantern |
The rider will compress the suspension and make it easier to control. You may be able to flat foot with a passenger. +1 | ||
| Nillaice |
easy, just pick-up a fat chick. if you tip over maybe she'll break your all and the bike too!!!  | ||
| Badlionsfan |
It doesn't matter, chicks don't like short guys.  | ||
| Miamiuly |
Passenger at risk- of what? Falling over at a stand still? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
chicks don't like short guys How the hell did you get a woman then Stumpy? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
"chicks don't like short guys " At some point you would think that gene would be bred out... Apparently not by my parents generation tho. Damn 5-6. | ||
| Madduck |
Chicks dig racers, vast majority of them are in the 5'6" category, and thin!! Most stature challenged tend to be wound tight due to that racer gene. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
How the hell did you get a woman then Stumpy? I'm 5' 11" and have a winning personality.  | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Chicks dig racers, vast majority of them are in the 5'6" category are any of said racers scared of not being able to flat foot at a stop with a chick on board? | ||
| Drfudd |
+1 on the suspension compression. I'm tip toes normally, but I even rode a 100 pound chick and she compressed the suspension enough to flat foot, it helps to were thick boots too. Hell I'll ride anyone, even fat chicks too. This one time I know I overloaded the bike, at the time I weighed a good 220, she didn't tell me her weight but I guesstimate 300ish. but she compressed the suspension so much I had to tell her to get off before I let out the side stand out because it wasn't going to fully extend. and that was with maximum preload on the rear spring! | ||
| Midknyte |
Whether or not you flat foot - I'd recommend not changing your MO. If you are accustumed to tri-podding, keep doing it - Muscle memory is king! Changing the way you weight your bike, especially on a grade, is a recipe for a tipover with a passenger. Been there. Done that... | ||
| Badlionsfan |
This one time I know I overloaded the bike, at the time I weighed a good 220, she didn't tell me her weight but I guesstimate 300ish. Why are you admitting this?  | ||
| Tramp |
My problem with this is, if you're that unsure about any possible issues with being flat-footed or not, maybe you really shouldn't be taking responsibility for a passenger. This is BY NO MEANS meant as a swipe at you, but, rather, as concern for your passenger, and your future insurance rates. | ||
| Buelliedan |
Tramp is spot on. I cannot believe so many of you are saying it is fine for somebody who can only tip toe a bike to have a passnger on the back. Just blows my mind how irresponsible some of you are to say that. Just think if that was your daughter or sister on the back. how would you feel then? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I can only tip toe my Uly. I have had many passengers on the back. When my wife gets on, I can flat foot the bike. Flat footing isn't necessary. It ain't like they would fall off at speed. Both my daughter and sister have fallen down. Neither were wearing gear or helmets at the time either. | ||
| Tramp |
My point is being a tad muddled, here- My issue is NOT with whether or not someone flatfoots a motorcycle, it's with the inexperience (NOTHING wrong with this- we were all there at one time) evident in a rider who is unsure as to whether or not he needs to sit flatfoot in order to carry a passenger. If this is new territory, please don't experiment with an innocent young lady on the back- put more miles on the machine before you carry ANY passengers, period. B00stzx3 is NOT ready to haul passengers, yet. | ||
| Rubberdown |
Get a tall rangey enduro and learn how to ride and handle your machine. Flat foot WTF! You only need one foot down to be stable. Just like a side stand. | ||
| Tramp |
well-said, Rubberdown | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
If this is new territory, please don't experiment with an innocent young lady on the back- put more miles on the machine before you carry ANY passengers, period. The only way to get experience with a passenger is with one. I think B00stzx3 is doing the right thing and asking you guys for advice first. I've never had a passenger, but have been thinking of it. Maybe taking an experienced rider as a passenger is the answer? | ||
| Tramp |
...and this is why I state that experimenting with an innocent young lady on the back might prove imprudent. An experienced rider knows how to ride with you and your machine, and will be unlikely to autocast while you become acquainted with the extra, rearset, load. This is how me and my dirt bike buddies learned, as kids, we had no choice, as we rode the railroad tracks over the meadows and fields to the movie theatre, usually about 10 guys and maybe 6 or 7 motorcycles. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Buy chunky-soled shoes. Even if you give up riding, you'll still be anachronistically stylish. | ||
| Tramp |
Paramount piece of advice! | ||
| Froggy |
What about using some dumbbell weights? Secure them onto the back? Obviously make sure they are on good, last thing you need is 100lbs of steel crushing you in a panic stop  | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
As a stubby guy with tippy toes at best. I ride with my son on back all the time. The key is communication. She has to listen to what your telling her and she must follow your body other wise you will dump it at a stop light. My wife is very difficult on the back. She will not lean with me at all and at stop lights moves all over the bike. I was on the ball of my right foot and she is leaning to the left. I cracked her on the leg and told her to follow my body. Jesus. She just doesn't get it. to be real honest I could give a damn if she rides with me or not. Riding with the son is cool and he loves it. He calls it a man day, we usually go to iron pony, or what ever errands and then to BW3 or Hooters, at 8 years old he is a breast man. Had to tell him to talk to the hooters girls face. LOL My daughter can't wait to ride with dad. Her feet don't touch the pegs yet. That is my rule that the feet gotta sit on the pegs. I have to figure out where to take the daughter for a little bonding time, NO HOOTERS. | ||
| Court |
>>>>>B00stzx3 is NOT ready to haul passengers, yet. That's an accurate statement. I hope that B00stzx3 realizes that this is no sort of a swipe at him but the culmination of years of experience and sound advise. A motorcycle rides COMPLETELY different with two folks aboard. Unless you are dating a guinea pig, don't experiment with your passenger. Always best to practice with a chick you are trying to break up with anyway. No Guinea pigs were harmed in the preparation of this post | ||
| Firebolt32 |
I was exactly the same way when I first brought home my bike. My 9r was my first street bike. Sitting on the bike I get the balls of my feet down at best. I learned what Rubberdown stated above. Before I let my girl on the back I had to be comfortable on the bike myself first. She's on all the time with me now. So much my tag is being distroyed. But that's another thread. Where I got lucky is my girl grew up on the back of her dad's bike. An experienced passenger is a plus. |
