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Buellrider11960
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:19 pm: |
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looking to buy a good handgun,w/stopping power for home defense. any recommendations?never own a gun before.decided on a mossberg 500a to cover the shotgun issue thanks for any input. getting the moss for 250.00 thanks again. |
Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:26 pm: |
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You'd do well to master the long gun before getting a pistol. To answer your question, IMO you can't go wrong with M1911 .45ACP (or just about any variant of it.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_Colt_pistol |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:27 pm: |
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Stopping power is about placement not caliber. A 9mm center of mass (or center of forehead) will do more than a .45 in the leg. I just bought a .40 H&K USP Compact. Love it! I am waiting for the H&K P30 to come out in .40. The XD is good as well as the M&P. Not a glock fan, but they are able weapons as well. Of course if money is no object, Kimber is the best you can get (IMHO). Well crafted nail drivers they are. |
Cowboy
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:43 pm: |
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The Glock is by far the simplest to use and take down with safety on trigger there is no extra button- leaver to confuse you if you are in a hurry to use it. it is safe untill you put finger in trigger. |
Cowboy
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:45 pm: |
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by the way the Glock is the standard F.B.I. Issue. |
Bikertrash05
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:50 pm: |
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Are you looking to save some money, too? Stoeger Cougar is a good gun. You want a big caliber light weight gun? S&W 329pd. You should go to a shop with a large selection and see what feels right in your hand. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:12 pm: |
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Cowboy, Never said they are bad guns. I'm just not a fan. I like exposed hammers, separate safeties, and decocker function. I also didn't like the angle of the grip of most of the Glocks I have tried. Ain't a bad gun. Obviously you are a fan. I believe that there are better poly frame guns. I like the XD, M&P, P30, and PX4 better than the Glock. They are all newer designs and incorporate better, newer features than the Glock which is a little longer in the tooth. Each of these weapons has built upon what Glock started. Glock simply hasn't done anything to progress since then. They don't have to. People will buy their weapons simply because they are a Glock. |
Hexangler
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:14 pm: |
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This one: Smith and Wesson Model 29 .44 Mag. "...it will take your head clean off. You have to ask your self one question, Do you feel lucky? Well do 'ya PUNK?"
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Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:15 pm: |
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Get a gun you can shoot comfortably and consistently. If you can, try to shoot a few different makes and calibers. Even if the gun is only for home security you need to take it to the range and put enough rounds through it that you're able to hit accurately and handle the weapon comfortably. That way if, God forbid, you do have to use it in an emergency you'll be more capable. If you're a 1911 .45 fan check out the new Taurus PT 1911. My friend, who is a gun nut, was raving about them. It has all the custom parts of more expensive manufactures but at a really low price. http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/pt_08 0505/ |
M1combat
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:25 pm: |
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Because they use lower quality metals if the industry as a whole is any indication. You really should shoot a few before you decide. Try Glock, HK, Kimber, Springfield XD, A revolver... Just try a few. The main factors in choosing a pistol are the angle of the grip and the size of the grip. The ammo cost is another factor because you NEED to put about 500 rounds through it in the first month or so, then at least 50 every couple months after that to maintain any semblance of proficiency. I've recently purchased a Kimber (their "cheap" "Custom II" model) and it's a VERY fine pistol. The trigger is the best I've used since a Colt Python revolver. Glocks have sandpaper in the trigger somewhere I think. They function for sure (although I have looked at a LOT of broken ones used by law enforcement) but I just don't like them. Maybe for the same reason I like Buells. |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 08:35 pm: |
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I was doubtful too because I've never equated Taurus with high quality but these are "custom shop" quality guns, forged components, match-grade barrels, solid guide rods, ect. I'm just saying they look like great deals and I've heard really good things. But, if money wasn't an issue I'd buy a Kimber. (Message edited by not_purple_s2 on May 22, 2008) |
Xb9er
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:05 pm: |
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I have a smith&Wesson M&P 9mm. it gets the point across. |
Hdbobwithabuell
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:25 pm: |
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Buellrider Any chance you might want to use said handgun for protection outside the home (concealed carry)? |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:26 pm: |
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Beretta 9000SF .40. Nice gun, not badly priced. We have them here for $400.00 (Message edited by buellinachinashop on May 22, 2008) |
Hdbobwithabuell
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:34 pm: |
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BTW - I've got Springfield, S&W, Kahr, and Sig pistols/revolvers. All have their good and bad points if you consider all factors; recoil, concealability, general accuracy, "stopping power" (AKA caliber), capacity, etc. You may find yourself owning several in a short time frame |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:46 pm: |
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i have both S&W M&P .45 standerd i keep at home, and an M&P .40 sub compact i carry.. You will not go wrong with either! Good prices too. I bought both for around $400 each! |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 09:52 pm: |
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.45
.40 sub compact
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Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:21 pm: |
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250.00 is a lot for a mossberg pump. also, for home defense, the mossberg is more than enough, big boom, huge, long streak of flame in the dark, no need to aim well....handguns are for carry, scatterguns are for keeps. |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:22 pm: |
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the subcompacts make little sense for home defense, they're strictly a carry item, and still bulkier than many small-frames despite their snubbiness. |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:26 pm: |
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M1Combat said "The ammo cost is another factor because you NEED to put about 500 rounds through it in the first month or so, then at least 50 every couple months after that to maintain any semblance of proficiency. Not only is the cost a factor, but it takes a lot longer to become proficient with a handgun. A good short barreled shotgun with 00 buck is fairly foolproof, and practically anyone can pick one up and hit the target in a close quarters situation. It will also double as a club when you run out of ammo. I joke (half-seriously) that a samurai sword is also a pretty good home defense weapon. The only real advantage to a handgun is its concealability when you have to carry a weapon in public. Otherwise, long guns are where it's at. |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:27 pm: |
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Hey Tramp. What's doin'? |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:31 pm: |
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I've always slept with either a Gerber Mk III, my Randall (before I lost it in goddam Macedonia) or my old SOG Trident by my head. prefer 'em all to some compact sidearm |
Bads1
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:35 pm: |
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I got Boerboel's. They do just fine. |
Bcordb3
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:44 pm: |
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The only weapon for home defense is the Taurus Judge, shoots .410 shotgun shell and Colt 45 longs all package in revolver. |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:52 pm: |
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...if ya gotta have a compact..... |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 10:57 pm: |
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grossburger the mossberg |
4cammer
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:07 pm: |
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CZ-75B or my favorite CZ-85 Combat. All you will ever need in a combat pistol. Can be carried cocked & locked, 15 rnd mags are available and accuracy is excellent. |
Boney95
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:08 pm: |
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Glock 22, don't make out to be the motha fuqn foo. |
Mr_gto
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:11 pm: |
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Fire all kinds of weapons and choose the one that fits you the best. It is a important decision to make so go out to a gun store that lets you try all kinds of pistols and shoot! Narrow your choices down and buy the one that your most comfortable operating. Opinions on guns are like oil everybody swears by a different brand. If you fire a few of them one will just fit, for me it is a Glock 30. |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:23 pm: |
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4cammer said: "CZ-75B or my favorite CZ-85 Combat. All you will ever need in a combat pistol." +1 I Q-d with the 75 back in '90, I loved it. I keep an 85 in Prague to this day. Chay Zet is the move |
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