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Adrian_8
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My rear wheel started leaking air. I took the wheel off and put it in a big sink and found that there were five places on the rim that were leaking..The rim is corroded with a combination of aluminum and the black tire mixture...This tire has only been on since July, and the wheel was clean when the Avon Storm was put on, and has not been run low or had any abuse. This is the 7th rear tire at 34K mile. The dealer is calling Buell trying to get a determination...Anyone had this problem?
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Gsron
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I service German Cars for a living and we see this a lot. Esp on M/B with the chromed aluminum wheels. I would bet that whom ever installed your last tire used "something" for a lubricant that caused the corrosion. 57K on my GS which has aluminum wheels and probably 9 or 10 rear tires and no corrosion. I/we only use mild dish soap (a few drops in a sprayer) mixed with water to mount M/C tires. On the cars we use a special "tire paste" to lube the beads.

PS as I was typing this I recalled my Boss's XR650R had some corrosion at the bead seating area on the rim. I'm sure this is from him riding the thing in the NV desert. The Alkali out there will eat everything if you don't clean it off as soon as you get home.
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With aluminum wheels that is going to happen over time, You cannot stop it and it has nothing to do with Buell.

I have changed thousands of tires on aluminum wheels and every single one has had corrosion, I just clean the wheel really good and use a quality tire lube.

(Message edited by new12r on November 14, 2007)
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Adrian_8
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harley said they use some stuff called: Wurth Tire Assembly Paste. That might be the good stuff to prevent this but cannot find it as yet...
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Husky
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here it is:

http://www.wurthusa.com/project/en/leftnavi/catalo g/product.php?path=04.0280.jpg

Husky
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wurth Tire Assembly Paste.

That is what we use here at the shop. $$$ Tho
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Florida_lime
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a good idea to use some Scotchbrite pad on the bead seating area when you change tires.

I have changed all of my own tires for years, and some rims will show corrosion or rubber build-up over time.

Cleaning them occasionally is just good preventative maintenance.
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Adrian_8
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wire wheeled it today and then took a dremel tool with a small brush to get the crud out of the corner and then used rubbing compound with scotchbrite and then car waxed it twice..thinking of using spray wax on the tire so no soapy type solution is used. Sure got nasty since July. That Wurth stuff is not easy to find locally...got to get the tire back on so wifey can use her garage. Thanks for the replies...this problem might be coming your way too...
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Chris_in_tn
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Napa carries a good tire lube, usually kept in stock.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is Astroglide corrosive?
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Bearly
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea Gsron, what products are corrosive?

How about Vegetable oil? I'm using the stuff that NoMar Sells.
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Adrian_8
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Something should be put on the wheel bead seat to prevent the oxidation/corrosion/sticking of the tire to the rim. Three coats of wax and a tire bead treatment will work for this time as the tire is about shot....I even thought about spraying some "beeswax" furniture polish on the area. The Wurth stuff is probably the ticket as my Harley shop uses it. Those fancy rims on CVO Harleys are not cheap.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just don't make the bead too slick, no rimlocks on these wheels.

Tire slip on tubeless rims will only affect wheel balance, not rip out the tire valve like on tube-type tires.
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Dfishman
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clean the inside of the rim with Gibbs Penetrating Oil during a tire change.It cleans & protects the alloy till next change.
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Dano_12s
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After cleaning the bead area apply a bead sealer[its a liquid black rubber] let dry if needed put second coat on,let dry. I use this on most alloy wheels here in the salt belt.Should be avail. at parts stores.
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