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Oldnotbold
| Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 09:15 pm: |
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I have been researching this for a while now and am getting ready to do this on my 06 Uly. I have a few questions and some information to offer: 1) Has anyone that has done the conversion (or just done the fork oil change), changed the oil and dust seals? 2) Are you using the HD type E fork oil? 3) Is there a preference to the direction the spring is installed (i.e. is there top and bottom)? I have read the information on the requirement for a 32mm deep socket to get the fork cap off. One of the posts by Stevenknapp had a reference to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem. taf?Itemnumber=34683 so I went by my local Harbor Freight and fond this set on sale for $16.99. It's difficult to find a single 32mm socket for much less, so I bought it. TIA, Dennis |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 10:40 pm: |
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Dennis, I had the dealership do the swap for me. I asked them to set the forks up as though they were 07 forks, same oil levels, etc. I am using the HD oil. They swapped the seals during the service. I don't know which side is up. Seems to be a recurring theme in my life. |
Jmhinkle
| Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 05:25 am: |
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I did the conversion at 4300 miles so I did not change the dust seals. I did not use HD oil, I used the Amsoil Shock Therapy. I installed the closer spaced end towards the top since cars are usually installed that way. |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:51 am: |
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Have done the swap and like the springs. Bought the spring compressor, seals, and bushings from Al at American Sport Bike. Bought the fork oil level tool and 43mm seal driver from a local moto shop, the deep socket 6pt 1- 1/4" (works great) from Pep Boys for a few $. Still cost less than what the stealership would charge for its questionable work. I use HD type E fluid. The Service Manual is a good guide, but I diverted the procedure a bit by moving the handlebar back out of the way and loosened the top caps before loosening the lower triple clamp bolts (loosen the upper ones first though). Be careful when loosening those lower bolts, even with the upper stopper ring in place the fork leg will drop like a rock through the lower clamp! I also left the beak in place, no reason not to. Installed the tighter winds of the springs at the top and finished the job up with some Moose Racing Forkskins to cover the lower sliders, installed before fork reassembly. |
Daveymac
| Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 05:42 pm: |
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I did it, bought spring compressor from: http://www.traxxion.com/technical.fork_tool_chart. shtml $35.00 lowered oil to 172mm There a progressive rate spring does it really matter? |
Bearly
| Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 12:41 am: |
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Damn, I thought someone told me on here that the oil level was 177mm. Well that could be just a little tuning if it's wrong. I put the tighter winds of the springs in the down position. I got my seals, bushings, fork oil leveler and my spring compressor from AmericanSportbike.com. I bought the 43mm Seal press from the "Stealership" (ok I like that one xbimmer) I also have that Harley fork holder. Didn't have a large enough socket. The top came off fairly easily though. Job was a snap to do. |
Jmhinkle
| Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 02:26 am: |
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Bearly, the spec is much looser on the progressive springs. I believe it might be +/- 10mm so you are fine. I actually set mine to 175 ish because my previous dive was so bad and I thought the setup needed more help than just the springs. |
Bearly
| Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:07 am: |
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Thanks for that Jmhinkle. |
Bails
| Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 04:06 am: |
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Well I did mine with no special tools and with out removal of forks or front wheel. I did not do seals only springs. I think the job could be done in an hour, I did have my son help holding the parts as required. |
Birdmanrh
| Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 05:07 pm: |
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From a spring standpoint (How is compresses) it does not really matter what way you put the spring in... However, From an unsprung weight standpoint you should put the tighter wound section UP. So, put the tight section up. ;) (Let the arguments begin, LOL) |
Gotj
| Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 05:18 pm: |
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Bails, Would you mind describing how you did some of the steps requiring special tools, especially the spring compression? I can imagine most of the work because the fork holder (a special tool required per the manual) would be the lower triple clamp. Did you change/adjust oil too? |
Oldnotbold
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 08:56 pm: |
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All, Thanks for all the information. I thought that I was on the right track, but needed some input. Regards, Dennis |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 09:45 pm: |
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Rob, You are correct. The same question and answer appears in the current issue of CW. Their answer was the same. Either you are a wise man, or you just got your December CW issue. They also said that for 95% of the riders, 95% of the time it doesn't matter which end is up. |
Birdmanrh
| Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:49 pm: |
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Geez, give me a little credit. You have seen me in the middle of suspension arguments before.....right? |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:47 am: |
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Discussions, not arguments, right?
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 01:06 am: |
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Nah. I only tune into arguments I can participate in. What's the sense in being covered in pee when you can't spray some of your own? |
Birdmanrh
| Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 02:06 am: |
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LOL, too true. |
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