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Glitch


Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw it in Sport Rider magazine.
Also here

I'd love to give it a try.
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Sleez


Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

called a "star twin", 3 cyl turbo deisel...a little more than a twin me thinks!?!?!?
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Pcmodeler


Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw that the other day as well. Thought it was odd but interesting, but maybe not as odd or interesting as this:

http://www.dolmette.com/
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's the rated towing capacity? Does it have a jake brake?
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Ingemar
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dutch product of course
205 kg wet
1200cc liquid cooled turbo diesel 3 cyl. with intercooler
bore x stroke: 76.3 x 87 mm
compr.: 1:16
wheelbase 1533 mm
steering angle 23 degrees
18 liter tank, ave. usage: 2.5 liter at 100km.

This puppie is supposed to have 150 ft-lb of torque!!
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2000m2
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty cool, can anyone translate the? Is that german?
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heard that it's suppose to get 150mpg. I think it would be cool to have a diesel bike.
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Ingemar
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

200m2, like I said, it's dutch. What do you want to see translated?

I wanna see a dyno of that thing ... I wonder what it costs too.
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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'd only need a 3 speed box for that, it'd pull like a train. I'd be interested in a roadster version tho'.
Daihatsu used to make a 3 pot turbo-d too, I saw one grafted into a mini once, many years ago, the performance was better than original, & the fuel mileage was astounding for the time.
I've been thinking for a while that with the advances in diesel technology it's only a matter of time before someone produces a quick diesel bike. Nice to see somebody with the vision/madness to pursue the idea.
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Henrik


Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They claimed power output could be boosted to about 250 ft. lbs. of torque. Stick a 4 gallon tank on it and make it a sport tourer. 600 mile range should do just fine : )

Henrik
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Ingemar
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What if it sounds like a tractor? Wouldn't that be very uncool? I mean, if it sounds anything like my car ....
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Tucsonxb9s


Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the smell! I'm sorry, but I have no desire to stink like a on the road trucker. It seems like the diesel fumes would just saturate everthing...your clothes, your hair, your skin...
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Jaredkuper


Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

English translation via Babelfish:

Star Twin diesel engine bicycle on MotoRAI 2004

Placed by Hans van Rijsse (Capivara), on 13 October 2004 for 13.16
Source: Motorfreaks

On the MotorRAI 2004 the Star Twin ThunderStar will publicly be shown 1200 TDI for the first time official to on the score of Kicxstart. The ThunderStar 1200 TDI are 1200 cc 3-cilinder, dieselmotorfietsdieselmotorfiets dieselmotorfiets. This is the first engine bicycle which combines the zuinigheid and appetite strength of modern diesel engines with the weight, the speed and the sport-loving file properties of the contemporary hypersport engine bicycles.

The engine bicycle has been developed by Kees of of the rigid and ing. Jeroen Bernart van Star Twin engines made at Loenen, using mainly Dutch components and companies. The ThunderStar whole has been devised in 3D CAD before the bicycle in each other was put. The ThunderStar are afgemonteerd with top-of-the-bill spullen such as super-light WP Grand Prix bump silencing device and voorvork, very beautiful carbon rims of BST, felle slows down of PFM and a modern profession work frame and carbon tank work from own house.

The ThunderStar stand sound the interest on grant of public in a fast, sport-loving diesel engine bicycle. Coming year expects Star Twin a Dutch kenteken on this prototype to get and tevens the first rounds off (inter)nationale circuits with long distance drive races to be able go. Or, how and when the engine bicycle comes in production, depends of the interest and responses of individuals and companies.

The ThunderStar are on the score of Kicxstart, see number 09,021.
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Ingemar
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is too funny! Can't make head nor tail of that.

Alright, here is a slightly better translation:

At the MotorRAI 2004 the Star Twin Thunderstar 1200 TDI will be officially shown at the Kicxstart stand to the public for the first time.
The Thunderstar 1200 TDI is a 3-cylinder, turbo diesel motorbike. This is the first motorbike to combine the power and efficient fuel consumption of modern diesel engines with the weight, speed and handling characteristics of todays hypersport motorbikes.

The motorbike is developed by Kees van der Starre and engineer Jeroen Bernart from Star Twin Motors in Loenen, built mainly with dutch products and the help of dutch companies. The Thunderstar is designed in a 3D CAD program before it was assembled. The Thunderstar is assembled with top of the bill products like super light weight WP Grand Prix front fork and shock, Bueautiful carbon rims from BST and good brakes from PFM and a modern quality built frame and home amde carbon fairing.

The Thunderstar is at a showcase to get an impression of the interest in such a fast, diesel sportsbike. This coming year Star Twin expects to get a dutch license plate on this prototype and make the first rounds on an international race track and do long distance races. If, how and when the bike will be in production depends on the interest and reactions of the public and companies. The Thunderstar can be seen at stand number 09.021 of Kicxstart.
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X1tx


Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmmmm. Maybe lower the displacement, then run the Daytona 200 with it. Not too fast, but with great fuel economy, what if you could do the whole 200 with NO pit stops?

Okay, enough of that.....
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Bud


Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there's a intresting writing about the bike in A&M ( Auto & motoren in dutch )
it's at work at the moment, ill see iff i can translate it ( 2 pages )
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Xbduck
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you ran Bio-Diesel in it the worst you would smell like is french fries.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My wife's cat likes to eat french fries. If I smelled like that, she'd be attacking me constantly.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe there was a diesel entry in the Indianappolis 500 many years ago. Try to google it. It came in 13th place if I remember correctly. I believe its respectable finishing position was due to its lack of need for refueling pit stops.
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Mutt2jeff


Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to give it a try.
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Vr1203


Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JohnnyLB, It was ole man Cummins.

http://www.f1engineering.com/diesel%20bike%20specs.html
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Vr1203


Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great story, read the book.
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Vr1203


Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the great upsets of all-time. Cummins Diesel wins the pole with a car that weighs 3,250 pounds in a Kurtis chassis. The cumbersome weight of almost 3,300 pounds (compared with around 1,800/1,900 for the others) all but wore out a set of tires just qualifying. It managed to hold 4th in the race until rubber and oil from the race track blocked up the turbocharger at lap 71. It was the first turbocharger in the "500," preceding initial use on an Offy by fourteen years.
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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tucson, I am a truck driver & I resemble that remark!

"I love the smell of a Diesel in the morning"

I own an Alfa-Romeo 164 turbo diesel, big 4 dr sedan, front wheel drive, 2.5l 4 cyl. When they came out a couple of guys cleaned up on the saloon car racing circuit with one, until the governing bodies changed the rules to put them back in their place. How many times have we heard that story?
If the Star Twin does go endurance racing, how long before the big boys start whining that they're at a disadvantage on fuel stops & have the rules changed?
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

vr1203 ---YEAH!!!! that's the one. Cool. I love that story.

My wife has a VW TDI 1.9...I love that car... it is a torque monster for such a small engine.
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Charlieboy6649


Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next thing you know you'll have diesel sportbikes running propane injection! I'd try it out!
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Gschuette


Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Diesel with propane can see great power! Good idea. That would be a really powerful bike.
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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Q, where are you going to put the propane tank?

A,
Option 1. under the seat, so it can blow your a**e off!
Option 2. between motor & rear wheel, so it can blow your b***s off!
Option 3. on top of motor in standard tank position, so it can blow your head off!

Answers on a postcard please, to the usual address, winner gets a raspberry.
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