G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile

Buell Forum » Quick Board Archives » Archive through May 12, 2008 » Made in USA? Anyone see a problem with this? « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Pinkie_and_the_buell
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a new set of wheel bearings for the front wheel on the wife's '06 CityX. A month out of warranty... But that's another rant.

But I got the package, and and thought, cool! made in USA. Open up the package, and whaddya know....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Slaughter
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

51st State?

I mean, they're no longer "real" China.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, the BAG was made in America, dummy.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Daves
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

pretty cheesy
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ducxl
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THat really goes up my......

It would be illegal to advertise as "Made in USA".......BUT,the American
they paid to repackage the bearing
cost more than the actual cost
of importing THEEEE bearing.

You got a piece of crap bearing.
Next time,go to a bearing supply
house for a quality bearing.

(Message edited by ducxl on May 09, 2008)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Firebolt020283
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe just the rubber part is made in taiwan
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Slaughter
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aren't the people who use Taiwanese rubbers called Fathers?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Limitedx1
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

even the american flag says "made in taiwan"

equate this to the people leading this country and well ya see what im getting at.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Haven564
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could be assembled in the states using foreign parts? Thats my guess.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bearing has the proper country of origin markings if it was in fact made in Taiwan and imported without packaging marked for retail sale.

If the bearing was imported in the bag that says "Made in the USA" then there might be a minor violation of Customs laws. However, as long as Buell Inc, reported them as "Made in Taiwan" regardless of the package labeling there most likely isn't a problem since there is probably no loss of revenue to Uncle Sam.

If the bag alone was made in the USA it was probably marked as such to be exported alone without contents, so it probably complies with foreign customs laws marking requirements.

Any violation in the case of a domestic sale might be of FTC regulations.

Either way it is somewhat misleading, and Buell Inc should be made aware of it to avoid any implication of impropriety.

Clear as mud.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Haven564, missed your post you bring up an excellent point. The seal alone may have been made in Taiwan, but the assmebly of the bearing may have occured in the US. So if the entire item has undergone a "substantial transformation" by being assembled or modified in the US, then the completed item's country of origin can be declared as the US.

I used to dabble in customs laws.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Davegess
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It could also be, and I suspect likely that the bearing came form the USA at some point and now comes from Taiwan and no one updated the label. I bet these are bagged in the US.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

USA at some point and now comes
from Taiwan and no one updated
the label. I bet these are bagged
in the US.


Typical "Wal-Mart" economics.Demand cost cuts from your
suppliers so deep they can't
afford U.S. manufacture
and bankrupt.
But when China can't cost
cut anymore you get a piece of crap bearing because there's no free lunch
and even the Chinese won't stoop
so low.Quality must suffer.


(Message edited by ducxl on May 10, 2008)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...Taiwan....whomever
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Loki
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Step back from the bearing, please.


NTN is a Japanese company. Doing manufacturing worldwide.

"Welcome to NTN Bearing Corporation of America

NTN is one of the world’s largest bearing producers. With manufacturing plants throughout the world, NTN is a leading bearing supplier to both the industrial and automotive markets. Founded in 1918, NTN has long been recognized for the most stringent quality standards in the industry and counts some of the most recognized industrial and automotive brand names as its customers. "

btw: one of the bearing facilities is located in Mount Prospect, Il
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Haven564
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To add to what Loki said:

"Over 70% of the bearings sold by NTN in North America are manufactured by one of the seven manufacturing plants the company operates in the USA and Canada."
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Igneroid
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bearings "R" U.S.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seriously, I bet only the seal came from Taiwan, and Buell is well within their rights to sell the whole assembly as a US product. I hope.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Loki
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Made in (the) USA" is a huge umbrella.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be very careful asking for US bearings.

In British military parlance, U/S has always meant unserviceable.

This is purely a linguistic observation, make of it what you will, no criticism is implied or inferred.

I don't by bearings from dealers, I generally get the numbers & go to a bearing supplier as most bearings have at least one application.

The bearing on my landrover jockey pulley was worn, it's the same one as some Yam FZR front wheels.

As far as Brands go, I prefer NSK or Timken, but NTN will do if they're not available.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cochise
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All they need to do is put it together in the USA, as somebody else said and they'd be fine.

From my understanding that even if a shirt is totally manufactured in China, but the taiwanese buttons are sewn on inside the U.S. they can label it as Made in the USA.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regardless of what the package says or where the bearing was actually made, you should read some of the Uly rear wheel bearing threads in "Big, Bad, and Dirty". The OEM NTN bearings seem to be failing excessively.

Koyo or SKF (neither made in the U.S.) have been recommended as replacements.
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and custodians may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration