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Archive through July 17, 2005Hammer7130 07-17-05  06:08 pm
         

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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah- normal HD oil like the manual says....
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Whodom
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can find it mail order, but it's ~$10/quart instead of the normal ~$8/quart. Mobil did have a couple of links to suppliers at their site. Chaparral Motorsports carries it too (similarly priced).

I suggest you complain to Mobil- like I said "If I can't FIND it, I can't BUY it!"
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I should thinbk a decent auto parts store (esp. an independent) could order it for you by the case. There's always spectro gold and agip....
hammer- call washingtonville auto parts (about 8 minutes from your job) 496-7807. the owner is 'Mike' ....his is a killer independent shop and he's an avid sportbike rider (mostly italian iron) and he would be the man to speak to.
He carries a full line of Agip, as well. tell him Jay recommended you call. good friend, we used to beat on audi quattros offroad together....
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Mfell2112
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try Royal Purple synthetic. I can get it for $4.99 a QT. My Dad has over 70K on his ultra classic and has been using Royal purple. I am running Mobile 1 15-50 which went up a buck a QT. It is high milage oil now I guess.

Regards

Mike
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Hammer71
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tramp, thanks for the hook up--- will do
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no prob- tell him you work with "lawyers guns and money' ...he'll laugh his a*s off.
(that was our nickname/title for greg {n-ball} fisher)
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well autozone and advance auto would not order it for me , talked to managers. never heard of royal purple around here , looks like 15w 50w more and more.

(Message edited by mmmi_grad on July 17, 2005)
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boy, when I mentioned that I used 5W30 M1 on another thread one certain poster jumped on my case, but not on this one. I guess it depends on who talks about it.

What weight would you use when it gets to -60F like it did in northern Minnesota a few years ago? A buddy of mine said that he keeps his truck in a heated garage. The manual transmission quit shifting on his way to work it got so stiff.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

iamike said: "------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
Boy, when I mentioned that I used 5W30 M1 on another thread one certain poster jumped on my case, but not on this one. I guess it depends on who talks about it."

until the post above, you hadn't mentioned 5w30.
now that you mention it, NOONE has mentioned 5w30 on this thread, until now.
5w30 is far, far too light for any evo engine in pretty much any temp.
i have ridden in low subzero as a daily commuter from NY to NJ (as a snow sports school director). lowest weight i used was 10w40 (organic), and only for a week or two. overnight temps dipped to -20oF regularly. I don't want to think about what the wind chill was when I was underway at 70 mph in the -20 air. usual winter lube for me is 15w40, which, frankly (like an idiot) i've been running this hot summer, outta sheer laziness and sporadic ineptitude...
what's with you guys getting all excited about 20w50 synth? why not run a 5w50, it would give you the best of both worlds, in synth form, that is...
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Ceejay
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Royal purple can be had via mail order from Jegs, price jumped though to 7.99 a bottle. Have thought of switching to Rotella as many of the diesel mechs around here swear by the stuff, but that RP synth keeps the engine clean and runs cool, so I am stuck.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so does rotella, man- a very high quality, high molybdenum and high sulfur earl.
cheap as all get-out, and available at any wal-mart.
I've always figured that at it's muych lower cost, by using IT with far, far more frequent oil changes, I'm doing great.
by the way, please don't ever pour your used oil into the ground. the carcinogens in that stuff can contaminate a LOT of area very quickly, and it'll get to us or our offspring eventually. heck, leave it at the door of a gas station or auto parts store, or shop...
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn this is getting to be a B to decide , i want to use just one make of oil and have my oil checked on reg basis by http://www.blackstone-labs.com
these guys are actually 30 miles away from me someday ill stop in and see if i can learn something from them. Everybody should check thier site, they will send you a sample bottle for free for the asking. Since i have always been a mechanic I can tell you guys that this place was known well by good mechanics at the first time i learned about them about 20 years ago, shame it took me this long to use thier service.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on another hand when i lived in Phoenix some racers would use 70 w or 60 w cant rember in the big twins alot of guys ran the pure 60w or 50 w for everyday running. so its hard to lower down from 50w when in hot conditions. Rotela sounds good but im having a problem with 10w -40 w the 40 w part is kinda scary in a hot and humid climate , my bike can start to ping and overheat even running 20-50 syn not only that when it gets hot the trans can get sticky and thats with the sport trans lube, i cant see all this take about running 50 w or 80-90 in transmission, i just think when bike would get hot trans would just stop working, BUT chain is at 7/8 inch loose spec at the momnet , need to adjust that but hell its still in spec! Sorry I dont discount harley engineering very easyly but will with solid proof with extreame prejeduce if that makes sence.
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Brucelee
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Red Line makes a 20-60 that I would use if I lived in Phoenix, Palm Springs etc.

Here in SOCAL,20-50 is fine in summer.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

straight weights are great for shovels/ironheads, but evos need multis.
mmigrad: here in the 90o high humidity of NY for the past week, my rotella 15w40 is doing fine in my beaten old motor. of course, i should run 20w50, and i'll do a change soon.
remember that in organic oils, the average of the two weights sets an overall picture, hence rotella running a higher low-visc.# with the lower high visc.
that sounded cumbersome.
20w50's the way to go, regardless, and that 20w60 redline is an excellent choice.... I gotta look into some me'se'f....
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