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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many here actually do the full 10K service interval as laid out in the service manual? It's a fairly grueling job, there are often multiple other things to take care of (brakes, forks seals, tires, oil leaks, and chain and sprockets in my case). Seems like every time I'm at that point, I drag it out over a longer period of time. Everything but getting to the swingarm bearings is no biggie. I'm really starting to hate doing it. The steering head bearings are no big deal as the forks are usually leaking anyway, the lower bearings are often covered in dirt, and the upper bearings/race take a pretty good beating.

So, who else removes their swingarm and front end at every 10K interval?
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Langperf
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not me. It is a grueling job. A good 8 hours if your humping and you have all the tools, a bike lift, and you do everything right, cleaning threads, antiseizing, loctiteing everything, torqueing everything etc.

But then mine has only seen the rain and a hose one time since it was new. I just use a detail spray, polish, wax etc. And it's garage kept.

Water mixed with grit during a rain ride is brutal from a corrosion and wear standpoint.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMHO, it is more important to adjust the primary chain and drive belt correctly ...

A little DOT-3 brake fluid on the fork seals ...

Re-pack the wheel bearings and do not over tighten the wheel axles ...

Re-placing the intake seals ...

Lubing the throttle cables and clutch cable ...

Lubing the control levers and shift/brake linkage ...

Setting the timing correctly ...

Re-moving the GRENADE PLATE from the clutch ...
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Langperf
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting tip on the fork seals...

I armor all the crap out of mine every season and am still on the original set...not leaking yet
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never lubed the swingarm bearings except for when I replaced the isolators. That requirement seem ridiculous to me.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMHO, if the FACTORY would put enough GREASE in the BEARINGS ie: wheel, triple tree, and swing arm the would go one hundred thousand miles !!!

WHAT HAPPENED TO GREASE FITTINGS ???
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Kalali
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"A little DOT-3 brake fluid on the fork seals .."

You mean clean the seals surrounds with BF, i.e., Q-tip soaked with BF and rubbed on the seal?
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Ajgerdes
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ummmmm.......... why remove the spring plate from the clutch? I just put a new clutch in my bike and the HD parts guy told me to leave it in there.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AJ, there's a reason they call it the "grenade plate"........
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, the sand here F's up fork seals regardless, especially when your forks have no dust seal.

The front end always comes off on mine. That lower dust shield collects all kinds of dirt under the bearing. A seal of some sort was going to be devised, but I decided to just get it back together. I've been using a rubber plug in the steering stem to prevent dirt intrusion from the fork lock hole. The top of the lower bearing used to always have a heap of sand on top of it.

For the first time I skipped the swingarm bearings. It'll be a 20K job for now on. I did take the isolator bolts out to find the screw that tensions the swingarm bearings completely undone, so that ended up working out. The pinch bolts hold things together, but that would've been one of those unknown maddening rattles.

Packing sealed wheel bearings is something I won't bother with. There's cheap alternatives that outlast the grossly over-priced factory offerings by a large margin.
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Ajgerdes
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So should i take my clutch back apart and take out the spring plate? what do i replace it with?
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2 steel plates and 1 friction plate.

when it's done, you'll probably notice that the clutch engages a bit more abruptly (i noticed) so that's the downside. The upside is you eliminate a well known "weak link" from possibly grenading and destroying more expensive parts in your primary/tranny.

"the HD parts guy told me"...

ignore that guy.

(Message edited by pkforbes87 on April 05, 2011)
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CLUTCH PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT Class 101, just PM me for a copy ...

Never ask a H-D PARTS PERSON or technician on any thing that is not in the PARTS BOOK or FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL because the do not have a "CLUE" !!!
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Ajgerdes
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet guess i will take my clutch back apart while i have my kooks welded back together
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please explain the DOT 3 on fork seals. Can I use DOT 4?
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