| Author | Message | ||
     Brettx1 |
Changed the oil on my 01' X1 today with an unsatisfactory result. After draining the oil(cold), I added 4oz of oil to the new filter,and then added 2 quarts to the oil tank. I started the bike and let it run a few minutes so it could circulate the new oil. After I shut the engine off I pulled the dip stick and oil started oozing out the top!! I proceeded to drain the oil to what I thought was a reasonable level, and ran the engine again for a few minutes. This time the oil didn't spill over but was near the top again, soooooo I did it one more time and got the same results but slightly lower. Now my question is do I keep doing this till the oil level is right, or is this a bigger problem like possibly my oil pump or gear. Thanks for any help. | ||
| Leftcoastal |
Likely you didn't run the bike prior to the oil change, and some of the oil in the tank had 'sumped' (a term often used to describe the fact that some or all of the oil in the tank managed to bleed by the check ball in the oil pump and fill the motor - all too common of an occurance in bikes with an elevated oil tank.) Makes it seem like the motor is manufacturing it's own oil, but it's really a matter of just adding too much oil because you didn't get all the old oil drained. Best way to prevent that is by running the bike a bit to get any extra oil in the crank to pump back in to the tank. Then perform the oil change. How long had the bike sat prior to the oil change? If it was weeks, there's probably no big problem, but if only for a few days, get the pump looked into. By the way, you've just done half an oil change, and you've sullied your shiny new oil with the undrained old stuff. Bummer. Al PS- Someone may chime in with more reliable info on your particular problem -if so, listen! I'm not an expert, but i've been perfecting the ability to sound like one, the result being that the BS is becoming much harder to detect. | ||
| Buellistic |
CHECKING/CHANGING YOUR ENGINE OIL Class 101 by request, just e-mail me and a copy is yours ... First of all your engine must be at operating temperature ... | ||
| Xl1200r |
+1 to everything Left said. | ||
| Brettx1 |
The sumping makes sense, that's what I get for trying to multitask. I'll warm up the bike and redo the oil change. Thanks for all help and offers. | ||
| Cyclonemick |
Make sure that you take it for a ride and not just let it idle, It must be at normal riding temps to drain Thouroughly! | ||
| Preybird1 |
Right behind the the oil filter adapter. there is a check ball valve and spring that stops the oil from draining down into the motor. When it sits for a long time it will slowly drain back to the motor. +1 on getting the bike to operating temps then draining the oil. It will drain more of the oil because it is warm and flows better and it will also get more crap out because it is no longer settled at the bottom of the motor. | ||
| Kalali |
To avoid this exact situation, I always drain my oil within two minutes of a long ride. I get everything set up so I don't waste time when I pull the bike into the garage and drain the oil. | ||
| Brettx1 |
Just an update. Everything is well with my X1, warmed up motor, drained tank, put new filter on, and then topped off tank. I do have a question though, how do you remove the filter without making a big mess all over the engine and exhaust. I used tinfoil with ok results.... Any better ideas? | ||
| Rich |
Brett, I punch a hole in the filter an drain it before removal, it's easier to control the mess. | ||
| Hootowl |
Cut the end off a milk jug and make a sort of sideways funnel out of it. HD or somebody makes a funnel specifically for XL engines, but a properly trimmed milk jug works just as well. I usually back that up with a tinfoil umbrella under the filter, since if there is the possibility of dripping oil somewhere, I will do it. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Brett, I use tinfoil. I'm real careful about how I make it and only ever need to wipe up very little. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I just let it flow and wipe it up after :P | ||
| Kalali |
"HD or somebody makes a funnel specifically for XL engines.." I just saw this gismo in the HD catalog last night. IIRC it was under $10 and looked promising. I have the same exact issue with the oil filter in the my wife's RX300. | ||
| Firstbuell |
kalali got a shot of H-D genuine gizmo? | ||
| Brinnutz |
By the power of one Google, I bring you : http://www.preferredpowersports2.com/HARLEY-DAVIDS ON-MOTORCYCLE-DRAIN-TRAY-OIL-FILTER-XL-DS-310248_p _159782.html That took 2 seconds...I should have used lmgtfy.com for that one. Google is your friend people! Ha! | ||
| Buellistic |
Been using the same 8 x 11 1/2 piece of card board for years now ??? | ||
| Kyrocket |
That's all well and good Buellistic but has yours been, "Manufactured from a carefully selected polymer to resist chemical attack and dimensional distortion from the hot oil."?  | ||
| Sleez |
i made something like that out of an old milk jug, works great | ||
| Buellistic |
"FOR YEARS NOW" should explain how good it is by how long it has lasted ... | ||
| Kalali |
"got a shot of H-D genuine gizmo?" I'll look it up again and jot down the part #. Unfortunately I'm a bit "pictorially" challenged. Will work on that as well... OK. Looks like Wilson beat me to it...Somehow the picture in the catalog looked more impressive...Must have been the female model holding the gismo... (Message edited by kalali on June 04, 2010) | ||
| Sdecp |
Sleez: Can you post a pick of your milk jug mod? |
