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Scottorious
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe this is an easy question. Which is better. Do they basically perform the same but the jet hot coating is "prettier".
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JET HOT COATING is "BEST" !!!

HEADER WRAP is "OLD SCHOOL" !!!
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Kyrocket
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...or both. I had mine coated for several years and like the look but wanted to change it up and wrapped them. They're wrapped in my profile pic.
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Kalali
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of wrapping, is it possible to do the wrap with the headers on the bike?
If so, what do you guys recommend in terms of brand and place to buy. Also please include the required length and the proper width.
Thanks. Appreciate it.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"NO" !!!

Got my wrap from J.C. Whitney ...

Come in a packed length and it will take 2 pkg.'s ...
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Kalali
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, thanks. One less "temptation" to worry about!!
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Kyrocket
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't remember who but it has been done before but IMHO would be a MAJOR PITA. You can get it in either 1" or 2" widths. I opted for the 1" wide 100' long roll, I think the 1" wraps tighter with more overlap. I only ended up with approx. 3' left over. I posted it at one time so it's in the archives and I'll try to find it. It has pics and all. Wear good gloves and keep the stuff moist, don't make it sopping wet unless you don't care what kind of mess you make. I put mine in the bottom of a bucket and kept it just wet enough to keep the dust down and it seems to let it stretch a little then once it dries it draws tighter to the pipe then paint it with the silicone spray or some bbq paint.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here you go. First one is the one I started (It's always easier to find your own threads I think) and the second one is some relevant reading. Enjoy.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/331446.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/179639.html
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everyone has their, so here is mine:

One inch wrap ...

Windex bottle with water ...

Safety wire ...

Over lap 1/2 inch ...

Wrap so the wind can not pick up edge ...

Wrap the rear pipe first just before collector using safety wire to hold start and safety wire to hold finishing ...

Then front pipe at collector with safety to hold start and safety to hold finish ...

Then wrap safety wire over the over lap so that if someone tries to twist the wrap it is held better and stronger ...

Painted mine "RED" ...

Picture sent on request (Ljenne73c@verizon.net) "ASAP" and all QUESTIONS answered ...
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Mmcustoms
Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did both the coating wasn't enough so I did one inch wrap and paint it with header wrap paint works good now
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had the wrap before, and now have coated headers - the ceramic coating has better insulating properties and is easier to maintain (no maintenance unless you want to keep it shiny - wrap will wear out though)

If you REALLY want to keep things cool, ceramic coat the headers inside and out, then wrap them, then spray the wrap with some high temp silicone coating. Who needs moderation? : D

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Scottorious
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i guess I am just looking at the wrap to be temporary so maybe thats what I will go with. I would love to coat them but Id rather get a 1250 kit so the wrap will last one season and then i'll spring for ceramic coating.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2010 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have ben considering just wrapping the rear header between the cylinder head and the junction with the front header to keep my right leg from getting so warm. Then polish the rest.
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S1_fan
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wrapped my headers once. It was awful to install - the fibers get allllll over everything. Wear long sleeves, gloves, and a mask. I originally used the metal "tie-wraps" and ended up cutting them off and using safety wire like most people here are suggesting.

The wrap will smoke for quite a while. It stinks and looks funny. But the wrap does look good on the pipes. Unfortunately I picked the "tan" colored wrap and even though I coated it with the DEI high-temp spray.....it got so dirty. Particularly behind the front tire.

So I took the wrap off and took them to a shop. The guy sandblasted them and sprayed them with high-temp powdercoat. I choose black. It looks really sleek. I do kind of miss the look of wrap but the powdercoat is pretty sweet.
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