| Author | Message | ||
     Prebs75 |
well i was just out for a ride and this started. When i down shift into 1st it does nt seem to be clicking just right and when i try to stick it in neutral it does nt click into neutral as usual and i actually have to just barely hold it up for the neutral indicater light to come on. So then i take off and when i go from 1st to 2nd i have to hold the shifter all the way up for a few seconds for it to catch the gear, if i just shift normal it won t go into gear all the other gears seem to work alright, so are there any adjustments to look at or for or what could be going on, 02 cyclone | ||
| Drhacknstine |
Shift detent plate behind the clutch (bad clip) is my first guess, second would be the pins in the shift drum. Exploratory is the only sure way to know... but, I bet you all ready were dreading that. | ||
| Is11b1p |
I had the same problem on my cyclone. My detent retaining clip broke. If that is the problem with your bike make sure you tap the pins back in on the shift drum before you put it back together. I just went through all of this a few weeks ago. dan | ||
| Prebs75 |
are both of these something that that the transmission has to be broke open for i suppose???? pretty much a newbie at all of this, its been one thing after another | ||
| Smoke |
have to open the primary, remove both sprockets and chain to determine if the detent retaining clip is broken. have to do the same to pull the tranny. i'm betting on the clip. clutch nut is l/h thread. tim | ||
| Prebs75 |
so this probably is nt something i should really atempt then i take it?? | ||
| Prebs75 |
so i went out and took off the little inspection cover and am looking at the chain how loose is that suppose to be i looked in the manuel but no dice, and another dumb question if i take off the big cover fluids gonna come out correct?? | ||
| Is11b1p |
Your best bet is to follow the service manual. It tells you how to do everything. Thats what I did. This was my first time tearing into the primary. Its not hard. Just follow what the book says. Dan | ||
| Prebs75 |
i only have the parts manual and owners manual i guess | ||
| Buell_bert |
You will save alot of money when you get the service manual and do the work yourself or with a friend. Misery loves company. | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
don't be intimidated by what I'm sure sounds like a huge project right now. Pulling the tranny out on these tubers is not hard at all. There's little chance of you messing anything up as long as you have a service manual and double/triple check everything you do. You'll save a lot of money by not taking it to a shop and riding a bike that you maintain personally is a very satisfying experience. If you don't mind spending a little $$, I recommend the baker smooth shift kit from American Sport Bike. It includes a new shift drum and detent plate, and the detent plate attaches to the drum with a button head allen screw instead of the c-clip that is prone to break on the stock design. | ||
| Sloppy |
It might be one problem after another because you don't have the Factory Service Manual  If you have replaced brakes pads and bled your brakes before you should have the skill set to repair the tranny. The job is simple as long as you have basic mechanical ability and the service manual. Buy the Baker kit - the factory detent plant isn't worth the money comparatively. | ||
| Cobraman |
if the clip is broken (i.e. no longer on the shifter drum) there is a good chance it may be on the drain plug for the primary. Thats how I figured out the problem on my X1. If you are going into the primary you gotta drain the fluid anyway. It is an easy check. If it ain't on the drain plug well then you just completed step one to opening up the primary. (Message edited by cobraman on September 08, 2009) | ||
| Tyronewildman |
Prebs75 Not a real biggie and as the others have said Probably just a }broken retainer clip which allows the shifter drum detent wheel to back away fron the pins that are used to turn the shifter drum. Exactly what happened to my S3T a few weeks ago. If it's the same, you only have to remove the primary cover and the primary drive. The detent wheel is behind the clutch pak. No special tools needed (except the shop manual) and one steel plate 4 1/8" long X 1" wide which is used to hold both sprokets when you loosen & tighten their nuts. Don't wait around on this as it could get worse. De  | ||
| Cyclone00 |
I too have had the broken clip issue many years ago. Luck for me it was covered on the extended warranty. My bike was doing the exact same thing you described. I thought my problem was a freak thing until I read this forum. Best of luck | ||
| Preybird1 |
I just put in a baker shift drum for the added strength of the machine screw that comes on there shift drum! |
