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Archive through August 07, 2009Ebutch30 08-07-09  12:35 pm
         

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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ebutch:

YOU did it "RIGHT" !!!
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LaFayette: No The Factory!
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ebutch:

Then you got a TUESDAY thru THURSDAY bike as "i" did ...
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick question. I know the center bolt is ~110 lb-ft. What is the torque setting for the two side bolts?
Thanks.
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F_skinner
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

30 foot pounds
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F_skinner
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait, I think it is. I am not at work and cannot verify that. Wait until someone else chimes in.

Frank
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Kalali
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No rush. What the heck is this?!
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends which FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL you want to believe ???

My 1997 S3T Manual says 73-78 ft.lbs.

Have a 1999/2000 S3T Manual which says 73-78 ft.lbs.

My 2000 P3 Manual says 63-70 ft.lbs.

Picked up on BWBers that 60 ft.lbs. was the NEW CORRECT Torque ...

When "i" replaced my FRONT ISOLATOR MOUNT it was installed with my 1997 Torque "INFO" and mine is still together ...

IMHO, it does not mean "BUELLschitte if it is not put together correctly no matter which Torque SPEC. you use ...
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F_skinner
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S2 manual says 30 ft lbs. However I would go with what Buellistic says.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LaFayette: That makes Scents!Will tighten 2 iso bolts to 60 lbs.Thanks Butch
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '00 X1 and '01 S3 FSM have no listing that I can find for the two 3/8" front Iso mounting bolts.

The bolt is a 3/8" with a top lock nut, the same size and grade designation as the tie bar bolts which are listed at 30 ft. lbs.
( good luck getting a torque wrench in there, I just pull tight and forget about it)

BTW in the above FSM's the rear Iso's and the main front Iso bolt are listed in the Engine Torque Spec's not the Chassis section where they should be.
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

70- 80 ft. lbs on a 3/8" bolt will pull the threads at minimum if not snap it in two.
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Buellistic
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is a TORQUE CLASS 101 CLASS needed here, as in how to use a torque wrench and adapters ???
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Sportyeric
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is some confusion happening here. Is the question about the side bolts regarding the rear isolators? (at the sides of the bike.) I think that is what Buellistic is answering. The two side bolts, on either side of the front isolator's main bolt, are 30 foot-pounds.
Correction. 30 is for the three bolts on the side plate of the S2. My manual says nothing about those small bolts.

(Message edited by Sportyeric on August 08, 2009)
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moshen:

center "hanger bolt" 110 ft
side mount bolts ( the aluminum part ) 60 ft, tighten and release re tighten
do this with the washers oiled and the bolt red loctited #272
Iso mount bolts 30Ft, as JR said good luck getting a torque wrench in there, 'bout 30 is good enough
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Kalali
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Appreciate all the input. As always, I learned more that I asked for. I was originally asking about the two bolts on the sides of the front ISO and 30# makes sense given the size of the bolts. I do remember the 60# spec for the rear ISO from the time I did my belt.
Thanks again.
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just installed,easy to torque because I removed tank,and front isolator.Am going to put in S2 style iso mount,upgrade!
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New front iso is GREAT all most no vibes all rpms L0501.2, Tested Today,14 miles
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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5liter
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like mine. Yellow dot and all.
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Drhacknstine
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That don't look like a 79D!
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BARRY 28043 is the -b iso. They did what I asked them to do. Good job Buell.
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Kalali
Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So this is the correct size? No reaming of the center hole?
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes...
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Phelan
Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the -B iso is better than the -C then?
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S3s-97 and maybe 98 ,S3s did not have upper tie bar at front isolater.I tested a 97 - S3 and it road as good as my 99 - S3 With tie-bar!Gess the tie-bar makes iso mount front last longer?99 tubers and up had tie-bars 4 instead of 3 ,97 ,98,S3? the 28043-B is not new or improved?But dam nice ride and HOPE it is improved?and did torqued iso-mount front 60 lbs we shall see.HOPE!!!!!And Wounder if I can order 28043-B Barry at auto parts and save?
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wounder if I can order 28043-B Barry at auto parts and save?)

Not likely I believe that its harley specific, you may have some luck at an industrial supply house try the barry # and see if they can get it for you.

let us know what you find.

Motion Industries
McMaster Carr
Dixie Bearings ( or your l
ocal affiliate )
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Kalali
Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"and did torqued iso-mount front 60 lbs"

I thought the center bolt was 110 ft-lbs and the two side bolts were 30 ft-lbs.
Which one is 60 ft-lbs? Is it different for an S3 vs. an X1?
What am I missing something here?
Sorry, just a bit slow this morning...
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Iso mount to cylinder head go 60 ft.lbs.

Iso to frame go 30 ft.lbs.
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Kalali
Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK I see. I never thought of the piece bolted to the head as the "Iso". I thought of it as more like a bracket...or something like that. Got it now.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I,m going by what LaFayette said 60 lbs instead of 30 lbs spec.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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