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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well but some mile on my 00' x1...love it !

but i have a few questions:

1) heat off the oil tank on the right side on the inside of my leg ...normal?

2) steering very twichey..normal?

3) steering damper

jt



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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1) I war a suit so I don't know.

2) What pressure is the front tire at? Is the tire worn?

3) No. just lean forward to put more weight on the front.
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JT heat is likely the pipe / Engine, I have never noticed heat that high up or on my fanny.

the others are like Nate said, the X1 is sensitive to tire issues.

BTW try a set of Continentals, I run the Road Attack Tires and get good service.
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Warlizard
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The heat is affectionately known as " Buell leg". Quite common. Twitchy steering could be bad tires, maybe steering head bearing? Try firming up the front suspension settings. Damper wouldn't hurt, though consensus is it is primarily for high speed wobble.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michelin Power Race or the Pirelli Super Corsa are my favorite on this bike...

The cupping that occurs easily on some tires, really upsets the chassis, and can cause a wobble.

Also, make sure you ARE NOT leaning on the bars, and producing feedback, which in turn will make things worse...

If your oil bag is cooking you leg, there is a SERIOUS problem. That said, like was stated, it is your rear pipe... that thing can get DAMN hot... especially in low speed/stop and go traffic, with minimal air moving over it... but, you will still feel it going down the highway...

Steering damper? Who needs it...

Chase
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Jos51700
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Proper steering head tension negates the need for a steering damper. Bikes that have been poorly serviced, or that do lots of wheelies (Even high-torque bikes like these, that produce lots of front-end lift, without necessarily lifting the wheel), will require frequent servicing of the steering head bearings.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HMMMM...got to learn about a new beast ...it's no S2...she is a new animal to me.
also...i have the black body stuff..complete set in great shape..looking to make her all carbon fiber..what would a set like this go for?
trade any one?
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the tire worn? ...new tire
make sure you ARE NOT leaning on the bars & just lean forward to put more weight on the front...

jt
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you will be cooler in most situations if you wear riding pants or overpants (you should anyway for safety).
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Warlizard
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JT You can get all 3 pieces in CF for about a grand. American Sport Bike has them all.
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Limitedx1
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i feel heat mostly in traffic, just a slight warm once moving on the road.

i had high speed wobble issues when i first got my bike, a head tube bearing tighten stopped all that twitchy feeling, carefull on over tightening of the bearings, there is a procedure to follow.

look on ebay for cf, much cheaper than American Sport Bike.

i might be interested in an all black set, is it a 3 or 4 piece set? chin fairing?
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Warlizard
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx Limited, I have been w/out a front fender for so long,I forgot there was one. It does take 4 pieces to cover an X1. I need only 2 as all I have left is tank cover and flyscreen. As soon as I have the cash, I will be going to CF. Matter of fact I will sell all 4 pieces ( red ) for 250.00 plus shipping. Condition is 9 of 10 for all but the tank panel ( 8 of 10 ). Has some wear in belt area, but now covered w/ protector.
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jersey, what do you mean when you say twitchy? High speed, cornering, doesn't hold a straight line? All these have different remedies. Heat on your leg, check if your bike still has the heat shield under the seat many people take them off. P.S. I'm in central Jersey too
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"twitchy"....real sensitive...real light.

Hugie03flhr, i'm in sussex nj..great roads up here.

jt
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Jos51700
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"i'm in sussex nj"

That's funny, I couldn't tell by the accent!
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the Lizard thinks for one minute that any of you cheapa$$ Buellers will come up with 250bucks for three pieces of plastic, there's a rude awakening in store for him!
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

limited,
4 piece....8.5/10


jt
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Twitchy as in light front wheel sound about right. I try keeping my tank top off when I go out to play. The extra 20lbs. help keep the wheel down. BUT if its wondering on you, try dropping your air pressure 5 psi. JERSEY THUNDER I love your area!!! I'm in Bridgewater and the twisties rock here too!
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a good test for you...

When you feel it getting twitchy...

Let go of the bars....

See what happens....

I mean that seriously....

Chase
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CHASE,
WILL DO

JT
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CHASE,
DID IT...NO PROBLEMS
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well sir.. when you let go.. and get no problems...

The problem(no offense), is the rider..

And by that...

Your positioning, grip, wieght, leverage, etc, all contribute to how the bike reacts to things like wind, potholes, grooves, etc..

if you are grabbing to tight on the bars.. or, leaning too much ON them.. you WILL get feedback, and that will lead to the twitchy, wobbly/and possibly, a tank slapper...

Try next time you go out for a ride...

Use your LEGS to hold your upper body in position... practice it in the garage first..

You have it, when you can let go of the bars, and you still stay in the same position...

THEN, lightly, grab the bars...

The amount of force needed to control a bike at speed is surprisingly minimal...

hook your fingers over the grips.. with 1 or 2 fingers over each lever...

Only use enough force to maintain your grip... and control of the controls...

Try a ride like that...

It will be a littl akward at first, and might even cause a bit of discomfort in your thighs... BUT, once your body gets into that
rhythm... it will feel so natural...

The other part of the twitchiness is the aggressive geometry of the bike...

Give it a whirl..

BUT, practice the technique with the bike on the stand first...

Chase
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good advise Chase!!! Than when you master that, Chase will teach you advanced leaning techniques.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wll do...

what handle bar option are there for 00 x1?
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Chasespeed
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty much what ever you want in 7/8 bars..

I have run dirt bike bars for a little lower than stock, and cheap..

I was running a set of K&N Clubman bars from a member here, but, they didnt fit right, so, I ran them upside down...

And, now, I am running CrossRoads Perf bars(second set I have run on this bike).. which for the way I ride my bike... they are perfect..

Chase
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

COOL...anyone have a owners and service manual for a 2000 X1?

JT
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Chasespeed
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a S/M..... never seen the O/M though..

Chase
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sell it?

jt
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Impala
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an online version of the 99-00 X1 service manual if anyone is interested?
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm interested
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

copy please?
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Chasespeed
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim... I got one for ya, ... email me your addy...

If I have a blank disc, I will get it out within a couple days///

Chase
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