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Wiscokid
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://out.reddit.com/t3_c8rjhb?url=https%3A%2F%2 Fwww.buzzfeednews.com%2Farticle%2Fadolfoflores%2Fb order-patrol-migrant-detention-babies-breastfeedin g&token=AQAA8HodXeXKbhxtv4t-Qcis4Mv5_hHH369qPAOSQI IgQVO_Xjn-&app_name=mweb2x

How does anybody who claims to be a patriot or to have a religious bone in their body stand idly by and accept this??
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1. Tell your leftist representatives to vote to fund the Border Patrol, and their detention centers, so they can staff and stock the facilities to take care of the flood of illegal invaders.

2. Tell your leftist representatives to vote to increase penalties / instantly deport illegal invaders, which will a) reduce the number of people in the facilities in the first place, and b) help to repel future invaders. If they think "I'll get caught and jailed or sent back" instead of "when I get in they'll fall all over themselves to suck up to me / provide for me"...the incentive will be greatly reduced to even try and enter in the first place. We aren't drowning them in the Rio Grande - we aren't forcing them to do this - THEY are choosing to do this to themselves. Why? Because they think they can get away with it. If they decide it's too difficult or dangerous to invade OUR country, maybe they'll use that energy to try and fix their OWN countries. It is not America's responsibility to house the planet's homeless.

3. Tell your leftist representatives to vote to fund the border security wall, to keep out the illegal invaders who don't get the concept of "I'll go to jail or get sent back".

If they didn't think they could get away with it...they wouldn't risk their lives (and the lives of their children - how Christian is THAT??) trying to steal your money, my money, the government's money, and circumvent the system in the first place.

Deterrence.

Now.

Read ANOTHER article, where a pastor (a HISPANIC pastor) was appalled by the BS spewing from AOC's horse-face. He toured the exact same facility...at the exact same time...and had vastly different impressions.

Amazing, when you aren't a puppet for the Left, how you can see and report actual truth.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-borde r-facility-aoc-hispanic
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where were the hand-wringers when Obama built the "cages"?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/snopes-admits-obama-b uilt-cages-for-immigrant-children/
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They used to be left wing detention centers, but orange man bad.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Trump was right that it's a crisis? It's a shame about those concentration camps that were built by the prior administration. I suppose they thought they would be housing a different population.
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)









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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well stated Joe (RatBuell}

WiscoKid:

It's a bad thing if true. Easy immediate solution eh? Give them some food.

What do you propose as a solution to the overall crisis? People are illegally crossing our border by the hundreds of thousands per month, thousands every day, and presenting themselves to our border patrol. What would you have them (border patrol) do?

Emotion solves nothing.

Our President and Republicans in congress were warning about this crisis five months ago and asking for funding to address it, but in response were mocked and ridiculed by the Trump-deranged.

Then the Trump-deranged called it a "manufactured crisis."

Now the Trump-deranged are screaming about the crisis and trying to blame it on Trump. They finally authorized funding for humanitarian efforts, but continue to block legislation to end the ludicrous situation that causes the crisis and results in catch and release and incentivizes child trafficking.

I know where my moral outrage is focused, directly towards the filthy connivers who refuse to fix the insanely rotten laws that entice and incentivize the flood of illegals, and who now seek to demonize our border patrol.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And what exactly is the outrage about, some anonymous quote from some anonymous doctor on a Reddit political forum? <incredulous stare>. Let us know when it shows up on CBS news.


quote:

A Doctor Found Malnourished And Sick Babies In Border Patrol Custody That She Compared To ďTorture Facilities" - "Many infants and children are losing weight because of the quality and quantity of food being provided," a doctor who inspected a Border Patrol facility said.




Do you read critically?

Cause that sounds questionable to me. Why do you believe it? Because nobody would lie as a way to malign their political opponents?

It was AOC herself who was caught staging fake outrage in front of a gate to a parking lot.

As if a mother taking a small child on such a long and perilous journey fraught with danger and disease has not put the well being of her child at risk?

Many children show up at the border on death's door. Many are saved by American border patrol. MANY!. Many die, never making the border, left to rot in the desert by the cartel traffickers. What great mothers they have.

Put a name on that quote that can be verified. Show that what is being alleged is actually true.

Or should we join forces with representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and stop efforts to send humanitarian aid to the detention centers. How great was it when she supported stopping beds from being sent to help with the crisis?

https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/25/aocs-oppositi on-beds-migrant-kids-callous-cruel/

And what exactly is supposed to be outrageous about the photo of a woman holding her child while standing at a lavatory in a temporary holding facility???

But supposing it is true.

Who's to blame? "The right wing"? Trump? The border patrol? Or the people who months ago denied the crisis and refused the requested funding to address it?

Think.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One thing that constantly amazes me is how so many on the left so eagerly embrace emotion over reason.

It is truly amazing.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Here's a novel idea!


Provide the funding for border security that the President of the United States and the professionals who are responsible for our border security have said is needed.



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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I donít understand what all the fuss is about. Thereís no crisis at the southern border. The newsies and democrats said so just a few weeks ago.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, Wisco...

I propose an experiment, to be conducted by you, and funded by me.

This experiment involves you traveling to Mexico without a passport or any form of ID. Those items will be given to me before we cross the border. I'll give you $10,000 in cash - spend it in Mexico however you like - and I'll follow you in so that I can observe what happens to you and I will report back to BadWeB. Your goal is to reach Oaxaca.

I will, of course, have proper documentation for myself so that I can actually continue on my way when one of the following happens:

1) You are arrested and have a 50/50 chance of anybody ever hearing from or seeing you again.

2) You are robbed, abducted and murdered - not necessarily in that order

3) I can't think of any other options, though there may be some sort of mitigating factor that delays #1 or #2 by a day or perhaps two days.

If you make it to Oaxaca, of course I will return your documentation and fund your trip back to America. You may keep whatever is left of the $10,000.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd chip in for that! Could we set up one of those trackers that will allow us to see the progress on Google maps? It would be great to know exactly when it goes dark. I would like to request a 1 night layover in Mexico City on the way down. Please take pictures!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll sweeten the pot some...

I'll even pay for Rosetta Stone so you can learn Spanish before you go.

This way, you can negotiate your way out of whatever trouble might befall you...
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My advise is to stay out of Mexican jails. If your family doesnít show up with food, you donít eat well.

https://photos.state.gov/libraries/merida/231771/P DFs/beingarrestedordetainedinmexico.pdf

FYI being in Mexico illegally is a crime. They enforce their immigration laws.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And what exactly is supposed to be outrageous about the photo of a woman holding her child while standing at a lavatory in a temporary holding facility??? \black

Assuming it's actually HER child.

DNA testing has begun at the border, and is showing something like 60% (I think? doublecheck me...) of these children are NOT biologically connected to the people claiming to be their parents.

Think about it.

You're a parent. You'd do ANYTHING for your kid.

Would you put them on a near-biblical march through the desert, to invade a neighboring country illegally?

Or would you, as a responsible parent, leave the kid with family so you can access that country on your own...get established (legally)...and then send for your child? Safely?

Like Blake said - THINK.

It's a lost art.

Don't listen. Don't follow. THINK. Figure it out for yourself. If you need more information, GO FIND IT. Use your brain.}

(Message edited by ratbuell on July 04, 2019)

(Message edited by ratbuell on July 04, 2019)
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Torquehd
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2019 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're a parent. You'd do ANYTHING for your kid.

I'm a father of 2. My living situation would have to be extremely dangerous for my children for me to even think about trying to illegally enter a foreign country, and put my children at risk to do so.

That's one of the major problems with modern America. It's pretty safe and cozy to break the law. Whereas on the other hand, you can be sued and have to pay through the nose even when you have done nothing wrong. I get it no system is perfect, but our legal system could use a wake-up call. I don't know what that would take. And I'm not sure I want to know.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2019 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe:

I think the DNA trial resulted in closer to 20% either failing the test or admitting to no family relation before even taking the test.

That's huge. We're talking 20% of roughly 80% of roughly 1 million illegals per year, so around 160,000 fake family members, so 80,000 trafficked children?

Even if half that, that's horrendous.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2019 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That would be 80,000 felonies that the left wants ignored. I know if I transport a minor across state lines, I can be in a heap of trouble. We are supposed to look the other way when it's an illegal crossing of an international border? Yes, liberalism really is a mental disorder!
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2019 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The request for proposal ( federal contracts ) were issued nearly a year before the famous speech. ( Google has erased this, but you might find it with Duck Go To )

Speech? Contracts?

Obama's announcement that he would not enforce border law,

Dreamer Speech? No. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrdqBSaVz8
2012 Dreamer Speech.

Aside from what we now know were huge bribes by corporations that hired illegals, the above speech is rational and aspirational. The mention of Ted Kennedy, whose staff wrote the racist immigration laws still on the books, is historically interesting, but overall, it's a good speech ( short ) and any hidden agenda is well concealed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wejt939QXko
Another well crafted speech. The compromise Bill has some insane aspects, fines from poor families in welfare, for example. But note that there is still the promise to reject criminals, unlike today.

CNN spin as thousands of children sent to America overwhelmed the Obama plan.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjxay-XeSks

Oh, Contracts? The RFP was for busing children from the border all over America to "red states", mostly, to await their families. About a year before Obama's promise to not enforce the law, selectively, was made, and the flood of children began.

All planned well in advance.

Then, the Bad Orange Man was chosen by Lamestream media as the most profitable sound bite, ( true ) got the nomination by mass repetition & near zero reporting on the other candidates. Followed closely by the Chosen One Hillary tragically getting Ill and missing more than a month of campaign stops in the fall of the election. ( oh, that she openly hated half the country and the head of the FBI announced she was a criminal corrupt dishonest monster, but the fix was in so he wasn't going to prosecute, didn't help. Remember when we feared Comey would be found dead with 23 bullets in his back, an obvious suicide? )

Now the whole thing is Trump's fault.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SnruMBFM-bY
Sarcastic news commentary.

Setting aside the last administration's Cloward-Piven approach to immigration reform, since the racist Kennedy laws of the 1970's, immigration reform has been needed for over 40 years. Badly.

Why Congress won't do it right? I'm cynical and assume it's bribes from rich agribusiness and meat packing and other exploiters of illegals, rich CEOs of companies like Google and Disney that want to pay less for labor, the Chamber of Commerce that bundles bribes from smaller exploiters of the American worker, and an understandable desire by law makers to not pay their servants much. ( how many have an illegal from Guatemala scrubbing their toilets? )

I'll conclude with again pointing out the trend away from at least lip service to deporting criminals to refusing to cooperate with ICE to turn over murderers.

At this rate......

I'd also request the actual short video of Obama promising to not send away children. YouTube has edited multiple sources this year.
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