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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From about 4 o'clock this morning:

quote:

Have another look at Slate:

Hillary Clinton, 45.78% and Donald Trump, 54.22%.



Interesting, as Slate is as left as they come in terms of political slant.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm also reading that the MSM is saying Trump didn't/wouldn't shake Holt's hand after the debate (implying that perhaps it's because Holt is black?). Interesting:




http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainment/television/ article/Moderator-Lester-Holt-under-scrutiny-durin g-debate-9288202.php
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some alternate responses here that would have been good (Monday morning quarterbacking, but good to think about):

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/09/27/answers-a- conservative-might-have-given-in-the-presidential- debate/?singlepage=true
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Image source: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/7807960 08854876160/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Unbelievable evening in Melbourne, Florida w/ 15,000 supporters- and an additional 12,000 who could not get in. Thank you! #TrumpTrain #MAGA

- Donald J. Trump, via Twitter, 09/27/2016, 9:03 p.m. EDT



Source: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/7809358 20299599872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRAm6vPYuMM




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDGa5_MtRQ
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Donald J. Trump for President Celebrates Massive $18 Million Haul After Debate Win
September 27, 2016

NEW YORK, NY – Less than 24 hours after winning last night’s debate, the Donald J. Trump Campaign (in conjunction with the RNC) has officially brought in a massive fundraising haul of $18 million, signaling momentum of historic proportions.

“As a result of Donald Trump’s huge debate win last night, we had a massive fundraising day bringing in more than $18 million. This is a movement to Make America Great Again. We are grateful for the support of millions of Americans across the country. With this kind of energy and generous support behind us, we are going to have President Donald J. Trump in the White House,” Steven Mnuchin, Finance Chairman, Donald J. Trump for President.

"The National Call Day was a tremendous success. Many donors came on board as Donald J. Trump rolls on to victory," Lew Eisenberg, Finance Chairman, Trump Victory.

Leading Team Trump’s national fundraising push was:
•Team YUUUGE: Lew Eisenberg, Cara Mason, Woody Johnson, Carie Bock and Allison Macintosh
•Team MAGA: Steven Mnuchin, Elliott Broidy, Ray Washburne, Brandi Marks and Amanda Ober
•Team IRREDEEMABLES: Michael Cohen, Anthony Scaramucci and Lindsey Reynolds
•Team DEPLORABLES: Roy Bailey, Gentry Beach, Tommy Hicks, Alden Wood, Rachel Kelley and Mallory Hunter
•Team Trump Digital Fundraising: Brad Parscale
•Team Trump: Governor Mike Pence, Chairman Reince Priebus, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump and Eli Miller


The Donald J. Trump for President campaign is a national grassroots movement representing the desire to break up Washington’s rigged system and Make America Great Again.



Source: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald -j.-trump-for-president-celebrates-massive-18-mill ion-haul-after-deba
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Time poll is the most impressive ...

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinto n-trump-survey/

Almost 2 million votes and it's Trump 55% to Hillary 45%.

I bet the aholes at Time are pissed right now.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There could be something to this . . . I may, like one of the readers quoted in the article, be among that group that will only partially vote for Trump with the rest of my vote being against Hillary but more so the outrageous state of the American media.

http://nypost.com/2016/09/27/the-media-loves-hilla ry-and-it-could-cost-her-the-election/

I'm beginning to see a way Trump can win and am getting more concerned about a ridged vote.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPjbpyi9K2Y


"Remarks as prepared for delivery" for above speech:


quote:

Follow The Money
September 28, 2016

Thank you. It’s so great to be in Wisconsin tonight.

A recent Reuters poll had us tied in Wisconsin, and we were just in Iowa where we are up by 10 in the Reuters poll – and a new post-debate Google poll has us leading Hillary Clinton by 2 points nationwide, and that’s despite the fact that they were suppressing bad news about Hillary Clinton.

On November 8th, we are going to win this state and we are going to win the White House.

It’s going to be a victory for YOU, the American people.

We are going to end the Clinton Corruption and restore dignity and honesty to government service.

Hillary Clinton is an insider who fights only for her donors and for herself.

I am an outsider fighting for you.

One of the first things we are going to do is restore law and order to this country. Our good friend, Sheriff Clarke, is here with us tonight.

New FBI statistics shows that homicide rose 15% last year in America’s large cities, and that it’s the largest single-year increase in 45 years.

More than 3,000 people have been shot in Chicago since January.

Homicides are up nearly 50% in Washington D.C. and more than 60% in Baltimore.

Across the entire nation, for cities of all sizes, small and large, the homicide rates rose by more than 10% last year.

This is a national crisis.

Yet, my opponent, Hillary Clinton, continues to attack the police. First, she calls our supporters – many of them cops, soldiers and firefighters – deplorable and irredeemable.

Then, in our debate this week, she accuses the entire country, including all of law enforcement, of “implicit bias,” – essentially suggesting that everyone, including our police, are basically racist and prejudiced.

Maybe Hillary Clinton should confine her comments to herself. After all, she is the one who described young African-American men as “super-predators.”

How can Hillary Clinton try to lead this country when she has such a low opinion of its citizens?

How can she lead a country when she thinks America is full of racists, deplorables and irredeemables?

By smearing tens of millions of hardworking, decent Americans she has rendered herself unfit to be President.

She has nothing but hostility in her heart for hardworking Americans, of all backgrounds, who just want to live in safety, security and peace.

The police officers she attacks are the same people – of all colors and nationalities – who race into danger every day to save the lives of complete strangers.

Those fostering the dangerous anti-police atmosphere in this country share directly in the blame for the violence and chaos that threatens our most vulnerable citizens.

My agenda of reducing crime will benefit all Americans, but those who will benefit most are African-American and Hispanic-American citizens living in high crime communities. We are going to save thousands of lives.

The special interests, the arrogant media, and the political insiders, don’t want me to talk about the crime that is happening in our country and in our inner cities. They don’t want you to know about the hurt and pain that is happening to our fellow citizens. They want me to just go along with the same failed policies that have caused so much needless suffering and so much preventable heartache.

Well, I have news for the people trying to silence me and trying to silence all of us.

I will never back down from fighting to save American lives.

I will never back down from fighting to save America’s inner cities.

The only people Hillary Clinton ever fights for are the special interests who write her checks. Follow The Money.

Hillary Clinton has been a disaster for so many communities, but especially for African-American communities. I don’t think African-Americans are going to come out and vote for Clinton – they are too smart, and they know they are being used. They also know that she’ll do nothing for them once the election is over – she never does, and that will never change.

Same thing goes for Hispanic voters – they are tired of being used by people like Hillary Clinton, that have no intention of doing anything for them once the election is over.

58% of African-American youth don’t have jobs. There is another shooting in Chicago every 2 hours. 45% of African-American children under the age of six are living in poverty.

The inner cities have been left behind.

Crime is through the roof, public education is a disaster, there are no jobs, it’s dangerous to walk down the street with your child. To the African-American community, I say: what do you have to lose? Vote for Donald Trump, I will fix it.

I will fight for you harder than anyone has ever fought for you before.

Everything you need to know about Hillary Clinton can be understood with this simple phrase: Follow The Money.

The large corporations who support terrible trade deals that offshore jobs – they are donating to Hillary Clinton.

Follow The Money.

The Wall Street investors who have rigged the regulations against the middle class – they are donating to Hillary Clinton.

Follow The Money.

The wealthy donors who want to shut down American energy – they are donating to Hillary Clinton.

Follow The Money.

The special interests who want open borders, for cheap labor, are donating to Hillary Clinton.

Follow The Money.

She and her financial backers will say anything, do anything, lie about anything to keep their grip on power – to keep their control over this country.

In her campaign for President, Hillary Clinton has received $100 million dollars in contributions from Wall Street and the hedge funds.

She received $4.1 million in speaking fees from financial firms.

She and Bill received a total of $150 million in speaking fees from special interests since Bill left office. It’s all part of the rigged system being run at your expense.

The same groups paying Bill and Hillary for their speeches were lobbying the federal government.

Twenty-two groups paying Bill Clinton for speeches lobbied the State Department while Hillary was Secretary of State.

And don’t forget the Clinton contributors were appointed to advisory boards by Secretary Clinton – or all the favors and access granted to those who provided funds. She even gave up 20% of America’s uranium supply to Russia.

She put the office of Secretary of State up for sale – and if she ever got the chance, she’d put the Oval Office up for sale too.

She deleted and bleached 33,000 emails after a Congressional subpoena. 13 phones missing, several destroyed with a hammer. Her staffers taking the fifth amendment, and her ringleaders getting immunity deals. Foreign enemies with easy access to hack her server. Lies to Congress, under oath, about turning over her work-related emails.

The American people have had it with years, decades, of the Clintons’ scandals and corruption.

This will be the year the American people say: Enough is enough.

Hillary Clinton is a vessel for the special interests trying to strip this country of its wealth, its jobs, and its status as a sovereign nation. She is a globalist who has made a career taking jobs from our country and giving them to other countries.

I am not running to be President of the World. I am running to be President of the United States of America.

From now on, it’s going to be America First.

These special interests control Hillary Clinton. She is their chosen representative. You can disregard everything she says and just remember this phrase: Follow The Money. She’s there for only one reason, to protect her donors and collect their money.

Look at her career. She’s been there for 30 years, and has never done anything for you and your family. She’s failed at everything. She failed in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria, in Iran, in Egypt. She failed on ISIS – in fact, she unleashed ISIS onto the world.

She failed upstate New York – promising 200,000 jobs, but instead the jobs left. All she did was name a post office and a highway.

She failed the inner cities.

She’s failed women and children.

The only people Hillary Clinton has ever delivered for are her donors.

Our campaign is taking on big business, big media and big donors – we’re taking them on for YOU. So you can have the future you want.

I’m not owned or controlled by anyone – my loyalty is to you, and no one else. I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU.

My economic agenda can be summed up in three very beautiful words: jobs, jobs, jobs.

We will cut your taxes, reduce regulations, negotiate great trade deals, unleash American energy and we are going to repeal and replace Obamacare.

We are also going to end common core and offer school choice to every disadvantaged child – including every poor Hispanic and African-American child in America. We will put every American kid on the ladder of American success: a great education, and a great job.

The people getting rich off the rigged system are the people throwing their money at Hillary Clinton.

Follow the Money.

Our campaign is about breaking-up the special interest monopoly in Washington, D.C. We’re trying to disrupt the collusion between the wealthy donors, the large corporations, and the media executives.

They’re all part of the same rigged political establishment. They go to the same restaurants, they attend the same conferences, they have the same friends and connections. And they are all in for a big day of reckoning on November 8th.

Government will start working for you again. Fixing things is what I do. Just look at my projects in New York, and around the world, where I revitalized neighborhoods and lifted up skylines.

That’s what I want to do for our country – I want to go into every neighborhood and unlock their potential for all of our people.

Together, we can accomplish anything we want.

But that means you need to show up and vote on November 8th – and it means you need to start voting early. Early voting is already underway.

You have to knock on doors. You have to pick up that phone. You have to campaign on the streets. Spread the love that we have in this room to the people of our country. To beat the system, you have to lift your voice, pound the pavement, and get out the vote. Visit our website to find out how you can help.

You have six weeks until the election. You have six weeks to make every dream you ever dreamed for your country come true.

You have one last magnificent chance to deliver justice for every forgotten man, woman and child in this nation.

Don’t let it slip away. Don’t let this chance go. Stand up and be heard – for your family, for your city, for your country.

The arrogance of Washington, D.C. will soon come face to face with the righteous verdict of the American voter.

This November 8th, we are going to show the whole world that America is Back – Bigger and Better and Stronger than Ever Before.

Here is just some of what will happen starting in January of 2017:

I am going to lower your taxes; eliminate every unnecessary regulation; repeal and replace Obamacare; unleash American energy; end illegal immigration; keep Radical Islamic terrorists out of our country; save the 2nd amendment; support the men and women of law enforcement; and appoint Justices to the Supreme Court who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

We will rebuild our roads, bridges, tunnels, highways, airports, schools and hospitals.

American cars will travel the roads, American planes will soar in the skies, and American ships will patrol the seas.

American steel will send new skyscrapers into the clouds.

American hands will rebuild this nation – and American energy, harvested from American sources, will power this nation. American workers will be hired to do the job.

We will put new American steel into the spine of this country.

I will fight for every neglected part of this nation – and I will fight to bring us all together as Americans.

Imagine what our country could accomplish if we started working together as One People, under One God, saluting One American Flag.

It is time to break with the bitter failures of the past, and to embrace a new, inclusive and prosperous American future.

Once more, we will have a government of, by and for the people.

We Will Make America Wealthy Again.

We Will Make America Strong Again.

We Will Make America Safe Again.

And We Will Make America Great Again.

Thank you, and God Bless!

~ Donald J. Trump



Source: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/follow -the-money1
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Torquehd
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for posting that Fb1.

That speech alone is worth my vote.
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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2016 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good speech.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2016 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I pray he means it and can do it.
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Aussie2126
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2016 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course he will - right after he finishes up with the Rosie and Alicia problems. Those are the real problems this nation faces.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2016 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://jezebel.com/usa-today-publishes-presidentia l-endorsement-for-the-fi-1787261913

Thank You USA Today!

If I had any doubts I'm voting for Trump, you settled them. I'm in.

You know a man by the enemies he makes. I like Donald more each day. ( and I can't stand the guy )
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2016 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's getting my vote.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Donald Trump did not steal your money. Donald Trump did not raise your taxes. Donald Trump did not quadruple the price of food. Donald Trump is not influencing or stirring the race issue. Donald Trump did not leave any U.S. officials and citizens behind in Benghazi to be slaughtered and desecrated by Muslims. Donald Trump did not create a security vacuum from which ISIS grew out of the remnants of al-Qaeda in Iraq. Donald Trump did not arm ISIS and systematically exterminate Christians, Kurds, and the innocent throughout the Middle East. Donald Trump did not betray Israel. Donald Trump did not provide hundreds of billions in financing and technology to Iran's nuclear weapons program by way of a phony deal. Donald Trump did not give our military secrets to China. Donald Trump did not decimate and deplete our military and betray our veterans. Donald Trump did not increase our debt to over 20 trillion dollars. Donald Trump did not ruin our credit twice. Donald Trump did not institute unbalanced trade deals that sent billions of American dollars, jobs, and businesses to foreign countries. Donald Trump did not double African-American unemployment. Donald Trump did not open our borders, influence massive illegal immigration, or provide U.S. tax dollars to bring in unvetted Middle Eastern refugees to America. Donald Trump did not steal your rights, violate U.S. constitutional law, or commit treason dozens of times.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/09/consid er_this_in_your_voting_decisionmaking_process.html #ixzz4LpMCLqXH
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/30/presidential-deb ates-admits-trumps-mic-was-messed-up/
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...I'm a sound guy. I do live performances on a regular basis. I'm a small company - it's ME and that's it. My system fits in the bed of my truck...and even *I* carry spare mics. Soon as I notice a problem, I can swap a mic, or a cable, in a break between songs. Less time than a commercial break.

I call "rigged". Another attempt to discredit the "outsider".
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Court
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2016 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not a sound guy.

I record in the living room. I keep a spare SM58 and a spare SM57 and 2 spare Mogami cables.

I can change one out in about a minute and generally have a spare patched into the board if I decide I want to try a different mic.

$50,000,000 they spend staging this thing and they can't make a $1,000 mic work?

Conspiracy ? Who knows.

Idiots. Without a doubt.
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Macbuell
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm so sick of this shit. All of it. My anger is at a boiling point.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, No, you need to keep Sous Vide. ; )

I do admit, I tend to flip the bird at any tv with network news on.

Not since the Socialists took over Russia, then Germany, have the so called news companies been so entrenched in deliberate falsehood.

And CNN, ABC, etc. don't have the excuse that the secret police would take them out and shoot them in the back of the head if they deviated from the Official Truth.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a really interesting read on Trump.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-sw itched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to

It captures succinctly one thing that I've felt early on regarding trump. I didn't know how to articulate it beyond "it's a New Yorker" thing (I work with a bunch of them and like them). But this describes it better...


quote:

5. Pacing and Leading: Trump always takes the extreme position on matters of safety and security for the country, even if those positions are unconstitutional, impractical, evil, or something that the military would refuse to do. Normal people see this as a dangerous situation. Trained persuaders like me see this as something called pacing and leading. Trump “paces” the public – meaning he matches them in their emotional state, and then some. He does that with his extreme responses on immigration, fighting ISIS, stop-and-frisk, etc. Once Trump has established himself as the biggest bad-ass on the topic, he is free to “lead,” which we see him do by softening his deportation stand, limiting his stop-and-frisk comment to Chicago, reversing his first answer on penalties for abortion, and so on. If you are not trained in persuasion, Trump look scary. If you understand pacing and leading, you might see him as the safest candidate who has ever gotten this close to the presidency. That’s how I see him.

So when Clinton supporters ask me how I could support a “fascist,” the answer is that he isn’t one. Clinton’s team, with the help of Godzilla, have effectively persuaded the public to see Trump as scary. The persuasion works because Trump’s “pacing” system is not obvious to the public. They see his “first offers” as evidence of evil. They are not. They are technique.

And being chummy with Putin is more likely to keep us safe, whether you find that distasteful or not. Clinton wants to insult Putin into doing what we want. That approach seems dangerous as hell to me.




I recognize that I frequently use this in my own interactions with people as well. Not in a manipulative way, but in a "take the time and effort to try and really understand and identify with people" way.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been chaffing at the bit to kill this ObamaCare beast.
Our plans are up and working in emergent Africa, Middle East and Asia - they work. NO big Socialist government sh*t
It has been a long road - I hope he pulls it off.
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Alfau
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

His pace is non existent when it comes to paying taxes.

http://time.com/4516001/donald-trump-taxes-twitter /
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's rich. Rich people pay the politicians to get them breaks on taxes. If you are rich, you can too.

And, I might add, Donald has bribed Hillary before. ( or donated if you like ) So he knows how the system works.

You might also notice that the NY Times doesn't pay much in taxes either, since their owner eas/is rich and payed a lot to not pay a great deal.... Just like many rich people.

And the NYT broke the law by publishing part of Trump's taxes.

You can be assured that the Obama Regime Infernal Revenue Service would have publicly pounded Donald if there was the slightest irregularity in his taxes. The last 7+ years have shown that the IRS is very illegally an active participant in our political system.

So they would absolutely hammer Trump if he'd broken the law.

It's also true that the Clintons did in fact break the law, multiple times, but they are not just rich, they are CONNECTED, and not only know where the bodies are buried, they ( allegedly ) arranged for the burials themselves. So the IRS has nothing to say about the "minor irregularities" in the Clinton dynasty finances. Of course, if I had lied as boldly as they have, I'd be in prison. See above.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alfau, perhaps you aren't familiar with US Tax codes, being a resident of Australia.

They are extremely precise in the rules. You can pay taxes, or you can take steps that will lower your tax obligations. For normal people, the most common is having a kid (which lowers your tax bill) or paying interest on a home mortage (which lowers your tax bill).

Guess who made the rules on what constitutes a tax break? Politicians making laws. Guess why they did it? To incentivize people to invest money into things the government wanted people to invest money in.

The other source of "tax breaks" is that it turns out you actually lost money. You pay taxes on money you make, so if you don't make money, you don't pay taxes. You can lower your tax burden that ways as well. Say you make motorcycles, and have a really good selling air cooled adventure tourer. You make $10m profits on it in the 2008 calendar year. Before the end of 2008, you take 8 million of those profits, and spend them to develop your next generation water cooled adventure bike. In that case, you only made $2m in profit. The other $8m was invested back into the company.

So there are only three things that could have happened:

1) You pay your taxes on your profits as per the law.
2) You pay no taxes because you made no profits or took advantage of laws passed that lower your taxes in return for doing something the government wants you to do.
3) You lie and cheat, for example creating a bogus charitable foundation used to peddle influence to government programs, and enrich your friends and family.

So "paid taxes" or "paid no taxes" means nothing. You either cheated on your taxes or you didn't.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fairly accurate assessment.

Point is I paid taxes, Trump didn't.

I made money . . he lost $985,000,000 after taking some risks.

We are fully compliant with the United States Tax Laws.

If you want to find something "bad" about Trump . . . they are going to need to do better than "he complied with the law but I'm jealous".
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much did Trump's businesses pay in taxes? It would seem to me that the tax returns of an individual (no matter how rich) would pale in comparison to those paid by huge companies...?

Not to mention all the government fleecing of businesses via the permitting process for every little thing.

Jesus, help me... I'm starting to sound like a Trump supporter
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Court
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/0 3/07/27-giant-profitable-companies-paid-no-taxes/8 1399094/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/hah-ny-tim es-paid-no-taxes-2014/

Just like parading that beauty queen . . . then finding out she has some sort of sex tape and "driving a get away car" history behind her . . . ya gotta be damn careful when you pound your chest in today's world.

Yep . . appears the NY Times pretty much availed themselves to the same LEGAL tax laws that Trump did.

Gads... I'm starting to sound like a Trump supporter. Fact is I am more "anti-idiot" than "pro-Trump"
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...more "anti-idiot" than "pro-Trump""


There's a shot of one of the Hillary Uber Minions ( front row in the first Debate, an honored and invitational status position ) judging a Beauty contest and he looks a right proper perv. ( allegedly during the swimsuit part, but if you cherry pick a frame of video you get half blinks and can always make people look bad ) I won't bother to post the editorial.

I always found Beauty contests to be a bit creepy...Especially the kiddie ones.

However... a Friend's daughter got into the competition circuit, and grooved on the idea of competing. Multi talented kid, violin, piano, smart, athletic, and cute. Now she's been a Jr. Miss champion at state & national levels, and next year is shooting for Miss America. Scholarships and connections.

The big winners get to meet folk like....well, Donald Trump, and Barack Obama, and are very fleetingly in the same publicity & talk show circuit as major sports stars & actors. Big winners often go on to... very well paying jobs.

And, occasionally drive the boyfriends getaway car. Such is life.

Oh, and she just hit serious dating age.
Doting Daddy, btw is a champion fencer. I'd love to be at that "meet dad when picking up the date" moment. : )
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