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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 19, 2015 - 05:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fringe eco-warriors run to nihilism and genocide.

The slightly less radical insist on making concentration camps mandatory for everyone not of the rich elite. They don't call it that, of course, that wouldn't sell.

What else is forced poverty in city slums? Ending energy intensive suburbia, the freedom to have gas hog cars and lifestyles, and those like me living in what should be parkland free from human interference.

The arguments are fairly compelling. Only our technology lets us feed the overcrowded planet. It can't last and rapidly growing peasant populations will soon overcome our ability to feed them.

The desired cures are not more choice.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/10/the- only-global-warming-chart-you-need-from-now-on.php

Not so scary this way, eh?

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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dubsca, I have my doubts on that chart. Where's the 1938 peak?

And on a "lighter note" We can now change people's attitudes with SCIENCE!

( I make no claim for accuracy or rationality in the following. Judge for yourself )

http://www.pjtv.com/series/scott-ott-thought-835/s tudy-drastically-reduce-your-belief-in-god-with-th is-household-item-11382/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This data http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB .Ts.txt referenced in the linked article, shows positive numbers for 1938. I have to admit that I really don't understand the chart and I haven't read the report that would describe the basis for the chart. I am assuming the author isn't playing games.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/secret-cold-war-maps/ #slide-1
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426021/naomi -oreskes-biofuel-support-climate-change-effects
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tod?

I realize it's harvest season and a busy time for agriculture types. Bless them.

I find it interesting, but not surprising that burning fuel to make alcohol to burn pollutes more than burning the fuel directly in the first place.

I'm all for alternative energy. I was promised Atomic Cars by Popular Science when I was a kid. I now know how to do that, cleanly, safely, and economically, and it's not by having a Uranium fueled Fission reactor at critical mass under the hood. How do I know? I try and keep track, a little, on developments in the field, and the technology now exists to safely use spent reactor fuel in cars. Anyone curious, I can go into more detail.

But the reason I post here is for Tod, to ask the questions he has not had time or energy to answer.

What do Petra, the Anasazi, Greenland, and Blue Holes have in common?

Your Opinion on "Cash for Clunkers"?
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://marionharmon.com/2015/10/25/a-funny-thing-h appened-on-the-way-to-armaggedon/
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/star-war s-star-trek-sonic-tractor-beam-invented-by-scienti sts-a6710836.html
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the technology now exists to safely use spent reactor fuel in cars. Anyone curious, I can go into more detail.

Yes, I'm curious. Please elaborate.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agency won’t give GOP internal docs on climate research

quote:

Citing the confidentiality of the requested documents and the integrity of the scientific process, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said it won’t give Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) what he recently subpoenaed about the research.




Yes, you need to keep the scientific process well hidden from the light of day. To "protect" it, of course. Beyond the ridiculousness of that statement, how does a government agency simply ignore a subpoena? It's time to clean house, as they are just starting with the IRS.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please elaborate

Some small percentage of reactor waste is going to be hot, physically, and radioactively, for quite some time. It's a tiny percentage of the spent fuel in rods in pools all over the U.S. Congress mandated that all reactor fuel was to be reprocessed, and the useful Uranium & Plutonium be cycled back into reactors, while the waste was to be stored for the hundreds of years needed to cool off and no longer be a hazard.

Then they didn't bother to actually do what they wrote into law.

The storage site chosen was a mountain, in Harry Reid's state, and he has blocked any actual use of the multi-million dollar tunnel network you already paid for. That actually might be a good thing, since it's possible that the mountain isn't the ideal place for long term storage. Of course, you can't believe anything Harry says, since he's a criminal and a Congressman... if that's not redundant.

Also, no actual thought was given by Congress to actually securing dangerous waste for multiple generations. It is normal for unthinking people to assume that all is as is always will be, even though a quick glance at actual history shows otherwise. Eventually, people will have no idea what was stored in some mountain or desert, and going to investigate the mysterious stuff, will kill them. Sci-Fi writers have speculated that a priesthood to protect the Holy Waste will be needed, to keep it safe for generations yet unborn.

I know the above sounds insane, but we are dealing with Congress, and Science, and lawyer ideologues have never been good at actual factual stuff. Alas.

In any case, take the physically hot waste, which will be at about 900 deg. F for longer than you will drive.

Although there are fancier ways to make heat exchangers, imagine multi layer corrugated cardboard. Flat, corrugated, flat, corrugated, etc. A common air to air heat exchanger for your home uses plastic "cardboard" and alternates the direction of the corrugations 90 degrees. Passing inbound air in one direction and outbound in the other, you heat the incoming air and recover some of the energy you used to heat your home.


Now, use tungsten, imagine that every other corrugation is filled with hot material. Seal the edges. Now you have a heat exchanger to heat a working fluid with waste. Not done yet, though. Put the hot part in one sealed compartment of a 2 compartment stainless steel box. put another heat exchanger in the other. Pipe Helium gas through the Hot part into the cold part, using simple check valves to make it thermo siphon. Helium will not pick up radiation from the Hot part. Pump water through the heat exchanger in the cold part. It will turn to steam, and you use the steam to drive a steam engine of your choice, Piston, rotary, turbine.

Either use the output to turn a transmission, or, more complicated but more versatile, to spin a small generator. use the generator to charge the surge batteries on the serial "hybrid" electric car, and when parked at home, plug the car in to pump electricity into the house... and into the grid.

The downsides, besides the simple fact that decades of anti-nuclear propaganda means they won't let you have cheap power, are that the heat exchanger module has to be fairly robust. Like hit me with a train and I don't care robust. That means we are talking about a stainless steel block that masses about as much as a Chevy V-8 small block. Plus the weight of the engine, batteries, and motor(s) Plus radiators and a small ( 6 gallon? ) water tank give you a fairly heavy car. The upside here is you don't need a gas tank or fuel.

Another downside is there simply isn't enough waste material for all the cars in the U.S. Or houses. ( if you build the units as home power/heating sources )

Periodically, you do have to add de-ionized, distilled water to make up for leaks and safety valve releases. The Helium is in a sealed system, but will also need to be topped off every decade or so. It will be easier, and cheaper, to just swap out the hot box for reprocessing for a fresh one. After all, you are "burning" some of the nasty stuff up, forever, and it's best to take the remnants, and "burn" it in the already developed neutron beam systems to turn reactor waste to energy. But the part you use in your car will be a tiny fraction of the total, so why not use it?

Core hot box design dates from the Dumbo nuclear rocket engine, ( never flown ) and modern heat exchanger systems. ( like used in homes and cars today ) Some of the details on the Helium loop may still be classified, as they are used in U.S. submarines. ( which ones? I can't say )

In conclusion. It can be done. The cost is not cheap, and it has to be part of an overall recycling system that probably should be under government scrutiny, but not control. Note: this only works with the Uranium cycle reactors already in use, ( developed for producing Bomb material ) and not the Thorium cycle rector we better have in the future....

Any questions?
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Math is hard

http://datechguyblog.com/2015/10/27/bacon-panic-po or-math-skills-easy-money/
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All doable Aesquire. But how do you stop your proposed nuclear corolla from being used with conventional explosives and turned into a dirty bomb?
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to tell you it would take a kiloton range blast to do that to an unopened hot box.

Then, because you asked, I figured out 3 ways to do it poorly ( very small release, but great psychological effects ) . The "right" way takes a remote control facility or suicidal volunteers.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is anything a closed system to Helium?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/stopping-hel ium-hydrogen-storage-leaks.727871/
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And..... Since you made me think about it, an elegant way. Darn it.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was leaning towards two hours in a closed garage with an $20 harbor freight angle grinder, and a hundred cutting disks.

You could make a good case for powering a city by this kind of setup though. Put enough concrete and steel around it that you won't get it out with less then a weeks worth of work If we can't detect and stop it in that amount of time, then we are all already screwed anyway.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how do you weld up the exchanger? tungsten is the highest melting point metal in the periodic table? 6,000 F it is used as a welding electrode for steel ( TIG )
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Laser.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep...... that would probably not be survivable.

Hoot, that's why you replace the module every decade.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't have to survive that long...
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well it's not my elegant method, but it does show that the modern world is full of hazardous stuff.

I do make it a habit not to discuss making IED's online. So I will skip the several items more dangerous than a nearly solid block of stainless steel to your health when used by terrorists.

Using reactor waste in fixed installations is a good idea. One every few city blocks would help create a distributed power grid much safer than the current one.

and don't forget that when you've degraded the thermal properties of reactor waste, you can then "burn" it in a disposal facility, greatly reducing the need for storage.

Most "radioactive" waste in the U.S. is booties and gowns used in medicine. Those still need to be processed, or stored for long periods of time. Preferably in Harry Reid's bed room.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/15102 6112106.htm

http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/extreme-sol ar-storms-could-be-more-common-than-expected/
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://theweek.com/articles/584216/why-climate-jus tice-india-west-each-others-throats

Worth a read.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2015 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More faked data

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/102815-77 7967-congress-launches-investigation-into-agencys- data-manipulation.htm#ixzz3q1lcQ34y

I guess the "scientists" don't want the grant money to dry up due to no crisis?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.yahoo.com/dead-comet-skull-face-hurtle -earth-halloween-115444654.html

Happy Halloween.

Missed again.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2015 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2015/10/29/world/eu rope/29reuters-climatechange-summit-russia-media.h tml?_r=0
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