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Rah7777777
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So this has happened about 5 times within the past two weeks.
I start it after sitting overnight, it idles for about 2 seconds and dies. I go to restart it, and after about 3 seconds on the starter it starts to sputter, if I hit the gas just right it will crank. I hold it at about 1500 for a few seconds and let off, it returns to idle and acts like nothing ever happened.
Acts like its an old carburator??!??
I know the FI is a primative setup but anyone have any ideas?
Also the fuel pump has an odd drown to it every now and then.
I have extended warranty, but I'm not a fan of having someone else work on my baby!
Just trying to see if its a common problem, before I get into any hardcore diagnosis.
Thanks!!
-Robert
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's primitive about the fuel injection? : ?


Had your TPS reset lately? The throttle can wear-in some, leaving the TPS calibration slightly off.
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Rah7777777
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake

-Well, I'm looking at it from an auto technicians point of view. Theres no closed loop running with the FI, as a car would have. it just goes off of fixed values/ temps and RPM's. A primitive setup. But i'm not saying its a bad setup.
It's SIMPLE! And I like simple!
Working for Benz, I have found they over complicate things a great deal!

But its mainly due to emissions. as soon as bikes get emissions testing it will be advanced like a new car. which really will just lead to more problems.

Anyhow, I'm not sure about the TPS.
I bought the bike 9 months ago with 12K.
Ive only put a few thousand on her and I have not done the TPS reset.
Not sure if previous owner did at 10K or not. probably not.
I guess it makes sense to do that first!
THANKS!!

(PS-Blake, did you get my email about the BadWeb link?)
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Rah7777777
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know what, I just realized the Buell has an 02 sensor, so it does go into closed loop!
I guess my mind was on my old FI jap bike.
It did NOT have an 02, so closed loop was never achieved.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This could be a great opportunity for you to try the Edit Post feature. : ]
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Rah7777777
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake

- Show off with your fancy links and ideas of "edits" HAHA

Thought about it, but didn't know if anyone had read it already. Plus I really could care less if I look like an idiot for a little bit. Bound to happen sooner or later.

Guess i'll be buying the Buell computer soon, to do the TPS myself.
There goes another chunk of change to that machine!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TPS options are getting better all the time... some free software to do it these days, though you have to do a little cabling. It's on my list of winter projects.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is this thing you call "Winter"?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"(PS-Blake, did you get my email about the BadWeb link?)"

I don't think so. Please resend?
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Rah7777777
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepicheep

- I do not follow? there are other means to reset my TPS then use the Buell specific computer?
A little cabling is no big deal. do you have a link to any info on it?


Blake

- I resent the email. this time to the right address.
And yea, winter???
Also, Blake I have to say when I'm screwing around on BadWeb and all the sudden my banner pops up, it puts a smile on my face!!!
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