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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where do XB PCV valves vent to,under the bike ?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In stock configuration they vent into the airbox, they sit in between the air filter and velocity stack.

I've seen people reroute them just about everywhere, like down past the oil cooler, or down the swingarm, or onto the muffler, and so on.

(Message edited by Froggy on April 01, 2015)
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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't get splooge running down on the tire,venting it down there?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope, sounds like someone did a crap job rerouting it on your bike. All the splooge is supposed to mix in with the air intake and be burned off.

My 08 has the stock setup, my 06 has the reroute with the American Sport Bike kit that mounts a catch can by the oil cooler. I prefer the stock setup these days, as the reroute requires me to empty the can every couple days otherwise it starts to overflow and spill everywhere, and it gives off a nasty grimey smell regardless.

The stock setup is completely invisible to the rider, and I don't smell like splooge after every ride.



(Message edited by froggy on April 01, 2015)
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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy,I have an '02 S3T with a Forcewinder and the breathers running to a Jaz catch can.I've been having trouble with splooge getting all over the side of the bike.I'm considering going with XB rocker covers and PCV valves.I made my own,on an S2 by drilling the rocker tops and installing XB PCV valves,but didn't eliminate the butterfly valves and wonder if the trick is to go with the whole XB setup?
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Down on the left-side near the oil cooler into the chin spoiler.

Only a few drops of condensation!
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's interesting, I'm not familiar enough with the differences in the motors to know if that would work, but the more I think about it, the more it sounds like it should work.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellish ,isn't it a possibility to have the umbrella's completely removed and leaf those holes open and run it like that with your custom rocker tops!?

(Froggy ,this is a XB )
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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if removing the butterflys would make any difference,I've never tried it.I do know that the two different
types of covers are quite different,there is a lot more open area in the XB covers,where the tuber style is sectioned off.
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Buellish
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2015 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I'm on the search for a set of XB rocker covers.Any out there?I know American Sport Bike has them,I'm hoping for a used set.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2015 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This guy has some,
http://www.ebay.com/sch/python-paul/m.html?_nkw=&_ armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-up-Buell-Lightning-Fi rebolt-Rocker-boxes-and-covers-used-/351361350890? hash=item51cec4bcea

Last month i got a set of covers from him for three dollars inclusive bolts and the breathers!

The parts are a bit greasy but in good shape.

Thought he is a member here to!
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Buellish
Posted on Friday, April 03, 2015 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Mees.
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Sagehawk
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cutaway of 07 12x pcv valve
pcv valve
thinking of designing something else. Any ideas from anyone? Idea is to get rid of foam and use volume of catch can to maintain oil overspray.
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Sagehawk
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Catchcan
catchcan

vent
just use the flip phone here . Sorry, but an hour and a coupla drinks , pictures are just sideways. Anyhow, am serious on breather mods and to turn this into less of a maintenance item.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For a road use xb ,keep the stock xb breathers and the hose down and remove the other hoses and reservoirs.

(Message edited by Brother in buells on April 04, 2015)
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Sagehawk
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those that have been into their motors, has there been any issues with reed valve in right side case? I was curious as thats where this all starts. I dont notice any oil carryover unless been on road for most of day at 70 + mph. Normal slower speed, shorter time dont notice the carry over.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellistic has the answer to that!
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Sagehawk
Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its no longer april fools and the 1190 ax has faded but ill bite on that.
Share and well both know.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have send you a pm.
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Sagehawk
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got it and info. Thanks. What model buell was that installed on and can the timing chest relieve itself with most pressure out of the timing plug? I figure it takes at least a little pressure to bump the umbrellas open.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2015 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's based on a 97 S3t

See Profile,
(13)Vent lines ie: gas tank,trans,and head breather hoses ran to tail section below license plate.Also vented timing plug hole(PVC valve and
oil/air seperator).

You could sent a pm to him for better/more info or how its put on the bike,
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/boar d-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=buellist ic-users
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Sagehawk
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there must more room for that installation on that bike than on a xb. lot of hot stuff in a small area there. Thanks for info BIB!
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Griffmeister
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"For those that have been into their motors, has there been any issues with reed valve in right side case?"

Inspected my reed valve at 22K, even under a magnifying glass could not see anything wrong. Replaced it only because I was there and not planning on being back there for a long time.
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Buellish
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mees,I picked a set of rocker covers from the guy on ebay pretty cheep,thanks again for the tip.
Does anybody know of an alternate PCV valve through the aftermarket?
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2015 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michael

Do you want a other style breather because of fitment on the s3t?

So i was reading this thread again and sagehawk was asking about the reed valves in the engine cases.
I have no insight on them (not that far into a XB lump yet)but maybe someone else can answer that question!?
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Buellish
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2015 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Do you want a other style breather because of fitment on the s3t?"

Partly,see my discussion here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/759464.html?1427942490
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2015 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes i did seen and read your other post!

So if you going to put the xb rocker covers on your S3t instead of the converted stock one's ,why not also use the xb pcv valves and let the catch can where it already is and find out how much splooge its spits with that setup.

Well maybe you have to customize the xb pcv valve from the rear cover a bit if it hits the fuel tank.
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Buellish
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got no problem using the oem pcv valves,but there is often a less expensive alternative in the aftermarket.

I took your advise and won a set of XB covers from the source you recommended.

I may leave the catch can where it is but it makes such a mess there that I'm inclined to move it.
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