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Mr_cuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I changed oil at 1,000 mi. and noticed today, at 1300, that some oil had leaked down on to the pipe, had blown back, and some may (!) have blown from there to my tire. I had installed the filter hand tight, so I took out a filter wrench and snugged it up a little tighter, in the process denting the filter a little. Anyone been down this road before, and should I just dump the oil and start with new filter. I rode for 15 min. or so tonight, and it doesn;t seem to leak but who knows. Oil on the rear tire certainly has me thinking every time I go into a right hander . . .
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you are suspicious of the filter and/or gasket, just replace the filter.you do not need to drain your swingarm/oil tank to swap filters. perhaps in filling the oil filter you drooled some??
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Starter
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine leaked a little and then I just tightened it more and no problems now. Going by the "till the gasket contacts and then x amount of turns" is fairly subjective description of the process. I would prefer a torque value. Crushed the old filter as well getting it off with the tool recommended by Harley. Funny thing that.
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Kaudette
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tighten up the oil hoses to and from the radiator - I had the same problem and this fixed it.
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um, did you put a bit of oil on the filter rubber gasket ring. Also, never use a wrench to tighten it. Just hand tighten it to the point it doesn't move. Then use the wrench only to get it off.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hand tightened it on, (and I work at a job that constantly requires twisting things on and off so I have decent fore-arm strength) and then after noticing leak gave it a 16th or an 8th of a turn with a wrench. Yep I oiled the gasket. I'll check the hoses, and I think I will just replace the filter and start over -
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Dbird29
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Replace it. Cheap peace of mind.
Check for any old gasket material stuck to the engine like the problem either Honda or Toyota cars had recently.
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like some gaskets broke off the old filter and stuck. Replace and check for bits of filter man. Least this is an easy fix.
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These gaskets are very fragile indeed. The main problem is overtightening the filter. Hand only and just about a quarter turn past stop.

You will feel like it is too loose and will come off but it won't.

I went through three filters to learn this. The gasket collapses and fails.

Good luck
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Moboy516
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine did come loose after hand tightening, bike spilled oil onto the drummer and then onto the back tire while riding pretty fast. Fortunately, someone pointed it out to me before I lost too much oil and also before I went into a curve with an oily back tire.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great!

Too tight and it leaks over can and rear tire.

Too loose and it leaks over can and rear tire.

My mind will be totally at ease now . . .
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Xbolt12
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've changed my oil and filter a bunch of times and never had this problem. I just follow the directions in the manual-a little fresh oil on the o-ring, clean off the mating surface and 3/4 turn after seating (as I recall) by hand. Check the manual for the faction of a turn, I may be wrong with the 3/4.

As for oil leaks, I bent Erik's ear at Laguna Seca because my XB12R spewed oil the day before my ride up to the races which meant my long ride from sd was done with very little sleep. It turned out nobody at factory had bothered to put locktight on the neutral switch (as called for in the service manual) and it backed out, dumping oil (transmission) onto the exhaust and below the engine. You might want to check for this. It's behind the drive pulley, forward and on the top side with one wire coming off it. You can tighten it with a deep well socket if you remove your drive belt and turn the pulley to line up the socket with a depression in the pulley.

While I was at it (and all the clean-up) I tightened all the oil lines damn tight and all the grunge I used to get around the fittings is gone. I have an oil tight bike now!

xbolt12
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