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Forza
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 02:28 am: |
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Tripper
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 08:55 am: |
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your camera needs the color balance adjusted. It turned your bike into a 2-tone. |
Dynarider
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 09:14 am: |
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Those look pretty flimsy, dont know how well they would hold up in an actual crash. Looks like you would stand a good chance of bending your frame mounting bracket. |
Daves
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 10:29 am: |
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God, here I go agreeing with Dyna! I can't see how those would hold up in a crash. Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
M1combat
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 01:04 pm: |
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Not to mention what would happen to your knees in a head-on impact... I found some carbon fiber covers for the frame spars that both look nice and seem like they would get the job done quite well. They also had a cover for the oil reservoir side of the swingarm. That piece also had a teflon (I believe) button on it that would be like a frame slider. I found the site by doing a search for "XB12R race" on Google. They also had frame sliders that were more like these, but look a bit shorter. It looked like they would attack in the same fashion but looked to be a bit more sturdy. I would still be afraid of bending the mount point with those though so I think I'll go with the carbon fiber covers. |
Bads1
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 01:06 pm: |
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M1 that would be trojan or American sportbike. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 04:56 pm: |
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I think the hot setup is low profile knee pucks. Looks like crap but I'm sure works best. |
Forza
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 05:23 pm: |
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I agree with all your comments. I don't think these sliders would do much protection. I found them on line (www.satoracing.com) |
Daves
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 05:37 pm: |
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I have 2 sets of frame protectors left. After they are gone you'll have to buy direct from Trojan and pay the frt from England. Who wants em? Ride to the edge! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
Dynarider
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 08:59 pm: |
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I think the hot setup is low profile knee pucks. Looks like crap but I'm sure works best. Actually I have seen a few pics & they dont look too bad. easily replaceable & cheap as hell. |
Coolice
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 09:19 pm: |
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Hey Dyna do you have any pics of the knee puck setups? That sounds like a great idea and their profile is lower on the frame |
Dynarider
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 09:33 pm: |
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Dont have any saved on my hard drive, but I can look around. I know they are out there. They just used some velcro on the frame & slap the puck on. A big enough puck should spread the impact load out & I would think no dents happen. |
Bads1
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 11:14 pm: |
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Dyna I have some of the BUELL pucks. I wonder how they would work. I'm going to have to check that out. |
Dynarider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 12:45 am: |
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probably look pretty cool. I also saw some of those tire tread looking deals that had been attached there & it looked pretty wild as well. Big ole hunk of double sided tape, slap some velcro on & good to go. You can even get pucks made up for different holiday seasons, sporting events, etc. Hell of a lot cheaper than the trojan horse deals..although those do look nice..but at least with the pucks if you go down, you havent just trashed $350 worth of carbon fiber. Throw on another $10 or whatever they cost knee puck & rock & roll. |
Dynarider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 12:50 am: |
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These are just as useless as the ones above. Usually asb has some pretty cool stuff, but I really think these are just so wrong.
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Dynarider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 12:54 am: |
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These ones are interesting, & with the replaceable nylon may actually work well.
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Dynarider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 12:56 am: |
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And for some reason I like the idea of this one as a swingarm protector.
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M1combat
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 12:59 am: |
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Daves, waddya want for em? BTW, No chicken strips left . edited by m1combat on December 02, 2003 |
Daves
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 11:37 am: |
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Which style? I have the regular ones and the ones Dyna posted above, the red/black ones with the nylon sliders. Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
Sparky
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 01:28 pm: |
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I tried fitting the Buell knee pucks but they have a warp to them that doesn't quite fit the contour at the frame. I wonder if they could be heated to change their shape. On the other hand why doesn't Buell offer something like this as an accessory so we don't have to mickey mouse a kludge? |
Bads1
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 01:29 pm: |
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Sparky can you sand them or put a angle grinder to them??? |
Daves
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 01:55 pm: |
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That has been brought up and will be brought up again next month in Orlando. Ride to the edge! We need frame sliders! Dave Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center) |
Fbolt
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 03:50 pm: |
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I like the look of (the original posted pic) those. They would be more protective of any of the above-mentioned, to include velcro/dble taped knee pucks. The cf frame covers seem like they would disintegrate along with those "bungs". I emailed them with a request for more info. Cost is $100 a set. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 12:40 am: |
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Properly implemented knee pucks would spread the load over a wider area in the event of a crash instead of shock loading some spindly little bolts and brackets. That and the pucks have a huge amount of material to grind away as well. Those look like even a low speed highside would destroy 'em. I've looked at a lot of crashed bikes. The pucks would also protect the frame from the impact of a bent handlebar...something conventional sliders can't do. That's my opinion...and I'm of the mentality that s**t happens...and looking pretty takes a big back seat to practicality. |
Trojan
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 07:04 am: |
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The carbon fibre frame protectors won't disintergrate as suggested, because they are backed by layers of kevlar which is much more resistant to damage and heat than carbon fibre. In an extremely high speed slide it could conceivable wear through, but in that event you are probably looking at a total loss anyway. The most common damage to the XB frames seems to come from people either falling off at relatively low speed, or the bike simply 'walking' off the sidestand. The carbon protectors will certainly save your frame in this respect without risking bending the frame bracketry. |
Sparky
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 12:52 pm: |
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Bads1, grinding the Buell pucks properly would necessitate separating the puck from the flexible velcro covered backing, grinding as required and rebonding the backing material. By the time I got done with the first step, I'll betcha they would be trash. IMO, I'd rather have frame sliders that look like knee pucks instead of the other way around. |
Fbolt
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 08:19 pm: |
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I see your point about more material to grind away with the pucks...I just don't trust dble sided tape or velcro to keep the other items in place. To me, it seems that the impact and following drag along the road, gravel, or whatever surface, would knock off the other sliders. However, I also see the point of the "stem" breaking off on the sato sliders. Aye Caramba~what to do?
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Bads1
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:17 pm: |
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Sparky I looked at them and you were right.Damn they would of looked ok too. |
Dcmortalcoil
| Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:44 pm: |
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Could epoxy glue the puck. But removing it would not be fun. |
Trojan
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 08:04 am: |
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The best way to attach the full length sliders is with silicone sealant. It does not degrade like double sided tape with heat. Ours have been on for a year now with no sign of coming loose. We also had a customer recently who slid down the road after hitting some diesel oil. He suffered no damage to the frame and the sliders stayed on. He only needed to replace the right side slider and turn signals.
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Captainplanet
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 09:14 am: |
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Trojan, Do you have any pics of the slider after the customer slide down the road? That would be pretty helpful in making a decision on which product to buy. |
Fbolt
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:59 am: |
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I'll order the sato sliders, they emailed me with a no hassle return guarantee. |
Austinrider
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 12:05 pm: |
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I have a friend who races a 12R. He has the Carbonfiber frame sliders. He did a high side at a race and the bike slide quite a ways. I havent gotten a deffinitive measurement, but it was done the back straightaway at Daytona (like I know what that is, just relaying info). I saw what the CF sliders looked like afterwards. They did eventually grind through and allow a minor portion of the tank to get scrapped up. Know what the beauty is of this - put a new CF Frame slider on and you cant see the damage. He was actually impressed with how well they held up. I have the CF frame sliders on my XB9S now after seeing how well his held up - considering the crash and the speed - Im impressed. Btw.. knucklehead is fine after the crash - just trashed his leathers a little bit
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Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:47 pm: |
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Did he void his warranty? |
M1combat
| Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:51 pm: |
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LOL |