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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got it finished. I have to do some tweaking to the dimensions to center the guard in the lower set better. I am considering producing some of these if enough people are interested. Let me know what you think.





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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

those rock!

Keep ME posted if you are going to make more, if the price is right I'm interested!
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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

put me down for a set when you get things ironed out
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats really cool! I wonder if the raised surface could be colored somehow?
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you hear your doorbell ringing , it's the trademark police ;-P
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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woody1911a1 they perfectly legal I didn't infringe any copyright or trademark policies.

As to the price they are probably gonna be about $100 to $150 per set. There is a lot machining that is involved in the process. I would consider making passenger heel guards too if someone is interested.

Indy_bueller I am gonna try to powder coat the lower surface the color of my frame (which is the dark grey the pics are on my friends bike) and then try to make the pegasus gold to match my rims. I have been talking to a powder coating guy and I think that I have a process that will work.
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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no way, Polish them!
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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not of fan of really flashing chrome or polished aluminum. But if thats what someone wants that could be easily done.
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pender they are cool but the logo is a trademark and yes HD will pop you hard for using it in any way. Also to get interest on the Badweb there isn't anything wrong with it but if you promote or take orders on them on the Badweb Blake will probably pop ya for it. But like I said they look nice but watch yourself.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The raised part would be the wear area. A colored(black) background would be the only way to go.

I'll take a set!
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey , i wasn't trying to be a forum cop .

the pegasus isn't trade marked ? or you have permission to use it ?
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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is quite a bit different than buells pegasus. I am gonna look deeper into the trademark infringement laws. If it does indeed infringe on buells logo then I will not do that.
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Davidh72z
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd Be interested in a set as well
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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take a set too.
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Sjh
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was was informed that a 15% difference from the trademarked logo would be legal, but that information was not verified.

Either way it would be good information to know for custom parts.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would think that a mostly similar logo used in conjunction with the same product as is the "real" logo would not qualify.

Who is the Buell Licensing contact? If you plan to make a Buell logoed product, see if you can get a licensing agreement.

If not, I think you're out of luck.

I do like the look though.
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68eb429
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ill take set!
HD is the most abused name around, ive seen it every where! t shirts mostly and im sure they didnt ask. just an observation
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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did some research on trademark infringement laws and I am not going to be able to sell these heel guards unless Harley Davidson decides to buy them. Sorry I thought it would be a great looking heel guard so I decided to make them and thought others would appreciate them and might possible want some. It looks like that is not gonna happen unless Harley would give me the go ahead.
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Isham
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course its trademarked. Why wouldn't it be. I think a better idea would be to make if of just a wing. Forget the horse head.
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Court
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pender: I may be better qualified to answer your questions in about 18 months . . .
: )


quote:

Columbia Law School has hired three new professors of intellectual property law in the past two years, a clear signal that the School will play a significant role in the theory and development of laws and regulations that govern the world's marketplace of creativity. While Columbia's IP faculty would be considered first rate at any school in the nation, their teaching and scholarship is greatly enhanced by the school's location in New York.


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Molly_hatchet
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

try sellin em to buell...never know u might get lucky...theres interest and they look good...if not i belive it is legal as long as u only use it for yourself...or a friend or two.
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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am probably just gonna make some for myself and my friend who helped with the design too. But as for production it's probably not gonna happen unless Buell or Harley like the design. Sorry
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Cruisin
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brian's right. I asked Erik himself about this a few years ago and he told me that as long as you're not selling them for a profit, you can use the logo (yourself and maybe a few friends). Starting a production run to sell would probably cross into the gray area, even if you only covered your costs.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just make them, step on them a few times , then sell them as "Used custom heelguards for buell" to us or on Ebay.



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Staindus
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just curious but can you make them so the logo is cut out rather than raised? It would make them lighter too no?
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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah the logo could be cut out rather than raised, and it would make it lighter. I wanted to make the logo really pop out and grab attention so i raised it out and am gonna powder coat it to match my amber rims.

Greenlantern I am pretty sure that would still violate a trademark law.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greenlantern I am pretty sure that would still violate a trademark law.

Can't fault a fella for trying!

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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice try! I am still gonna try to get some approval to produce these. Don't hold your breath but its worth a shot.
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Isham
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you outa do something like this. Then you wont have to ask any one if you could do it.

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Penders_xb12r
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its not the same. I really dont want just wings that defeats the whole purpose of it. I wanted the pegasus logo. Its not a bid deal cause I can legally make a set for myself, so thats all I really care about. I was thinking well I put the design work in already so why not make a few bucks off of it. But i am not gonna get into trouble over it so it looks like they are one offs.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Penders,

Marketing, advertising, or researching interest in potential products are all privileges reserved strictly for BadWeB sponsors.

The policy is outlined in the terms of use statement to which you agreed in order to gain posting privileges here on BadWeB. You may have missed it, so I've taken the opportunity to explain it here too.

We'd be grateful if you could please honor that agreement.

If you'd like to consider sponsorship; it's dirt cheap, only $58/mo in consideration of a year's commitment, less than what a three line classified ad runs in the local paper. We keep the rate so inexpensive because we want to help enable the small shops and individual entrepreneurs who cannot not afford a large marketing budget. More innovative stuff for Buellers is only a good thing! : )

Thanks,

Blake
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Coyote5797
Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think those are awesome. I don't think there is enough stuff with the pegasus on it. Just my humble opinion.
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