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Danxb9r
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was watchin TV in my bedroom and heard a loud thug thug outside. I looked outside and didn't see anything out of the ordinary so I went back to watching tv, 2 mins later looks like I have half the police force in my front yard and along my side yard ( I live on the corner). I go outside and sadly a young man had wrecked his motorcycle on our yard just about hitting every tree on the way down until he finishes at the corner of my yard. My guess is he was going to fast on the street thats on the side of my house didn't see the bend and lost control of the bike sliding across into my yard and ending at the corner of my lot. We had several shrub type trees that lined our side yard and he took out about 5 of them out of the 8. A helicopter came for him so I don't think things are good but I wish him and his family the best!! Sad Sad day! The officer told us he just bought the bike 2 weeks ago! I believe it was a Honda CBR of some kind was kinda hard to tell because of how dark it is outside. This is why im always extra careful on my bike you normally don't get a second chance!
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Dongalonga
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

especailly at night on a new machine
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ouch! I always hate to hear of any rider going down.

I hope he was at least wearing his gear, but odds are against it: (

Be careful guys! Dress for the crash, not the ride!
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea +1 what brian said. hope he is doing okay.
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope he is ok. I hate it when people get hurt.

he just bought the bike 2 weeks ago! I believe it was a Honda CBR

Bet it's his first bike.
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope he is ok. I hate it when people get hurt.

he just bought the bike 2 weeks ago! I believe it was a Honda CBR

Bet it's his first bike.


Bet you're right. And that's one of the reason motorcycle related accidents are up....people buying way too much bike......especially newbies......seriously, is there any reason to buy a Hyabusa or ZX-13? Unless you're racing that's way more bike than anyone needs in order to ride.
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Luckydevil
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sad. I hope he's ok.
I came out of my neighborhood one night into a circle of cops, there was a black F150 that looked like the side of the cab had been punched in by the fist of god. A small blanket covered a tiny lump in the middle of the road. Sad night, the kid was racing a friend in a camaro. I wanted to cry. His candle went out on impact, all they could do was call his mom. 18, new bike, one minute of carelessness/excitement/high spirits, and then nothing.
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Timxb9s
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is why I couldn't agree more with the way the UK handles motorcycle licencing. New riders are limited to a certain hp. Then only after a certain time w/no accidents or tickets, they can take a more difficult skills test to go larger.
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Danxb9r
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kid had a 06 Bussa limited edition, one of his buddies stopped by to see the damage and told me this. Apparently this wasn't his first bike but he just got this one 2 weeks before hand. Apparently hes not doing so well either!
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Buellfirebolt31
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the 1300's or ZX14 for that matter are rediculous fast......thing is they keep competing....busa is coming out with a gsx1500r next year (07)...too crazy...
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tim I am with you. I think insurance would drop and involvement in bikes would probably grow. It would deter those who just want too be seen when they find out that they are starting on a 1974 90cc Vespa. Hard to look like a pimp on a Vespa.

Later,
Bart
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry but I absolutely disagree with the power limit argument.

It falls down in so many ways.

Simply because there are those who can't use the power responsibly shouldn't mean keeping it from those that can.

Experienced riders can crash powerful bikes too, just like they can crash much less powerful bikes.

Relating youth, inexperience and high power might be correct in many cases but that is more a recipe for better training and perhaps tougher access to a motorcycle license. I've earned my wings and no crash kid should take 'em from me.

Rocket
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're right. You've earned your wings. You've learned to ride. Too many of these folks haven't. No one is suggesting that some of this stuff not be made. Yeah, I think a Hyabusa and such is way more power than anyone needs, but so is a Dodge Viper. I think Timxb9s stating recommending the UK's method is a good idea.

Heck, personally, I think once people reach a certain age, the should have to start retaking their written and behind the wheel tests for all vehicles.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just like they can crash much less powerful bikes.
Ask Nw12r about his PW80 scars.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


geared up
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Wademan
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It depends on if you think government regulation is good or not. If not, let people die on the bike they want. If do, regulate the shit out of people to decrease the number of needless deaths. That might sound a lil biased.

I think it would be uncharacteristic of America to follow what the UK did.
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Kootenay
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Simply because there are those who can't use the power responsibly shouldn't mean keeping it from those that can.

Nobody's keeping powerful bikes from those who can use them responsibly.

What Tim is endorsing (and I do too, BTW) is a limit on HP for those who are just starting out, especially those below a certain age, as is done in the UK. As newbies gain experience, they are allowed to graduate to more powerful machines. There are powerful sportbikes ridden in the UK and Europe, just not by newbies.

I saw a new rider (2 weeks) taking his license skills test on a brand new R1 a few years ago. The R1 was his first ever bike. Even with the tester kicking the cones further apart and making the test as easy as possible, the kid failed miserably. It was scary to watch him ride off afterwards (with a Learner's license in BC, you can ride on public roads as long as you have a licensed rider with you--on another bike--solo only, and not at night).}
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

slaughter, that was great!
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, in the UK a little more intensive training and you can have a direct access test, and the sky's the limit.

What's around the corner is more scary, and this is why restricting \ legislation is threatening to what we ride.

Right now there are lobbyists in Europe who are wanting a mandatory minimum age of 27 for large capacity bikes. There's already a study drawn up for a maximum 600cc capacity across the board. You think that's scary. They also want that 600cc limit to be a single cylinder engine too.

Once you introduce a BHP limit, say 100bhp max, how many years before the corridors of power bring it down to 85bhp when they calculate the death rate hasn't fallen substantially enough?

Two wheels will always get someone killed. It's to do with vulnerability as well. So how do we become less vulnerable? Dayglo vests? Air bag? Enclosed and roofed machines? Reducing power might work to some degree, but it won't work completely. Nothing ever will, so why legislate for legislation sake? That for me is an invitation to open a flood gate against our motorcycling freedoms.

Rocket
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